No, I dont believe I am- If anything im just speaking about something I really don't have much knowledge of because I've never had a alcohol addiction. I've been addicted to cigarettes before, and am completely free of that addiction, however I feel that if I were to smoke one right now, big deal. It wouldnt get me restarted on the addiction. (although I doubt I could smoke a cig due to how harsh it is on the lungs of a nonsmoker.)
Anyways, I guess all im trying to say is that I have George's back. I'm not disappointed that he got drunk after being sober for 3 years. I think it's okay, and im sorry his band and wife are pissed at him.
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then there are 5 pages of people being obtuse. Last time I checked no one else here (besides George) was an alcoholic at one point in their life.
Is alcohol addiction really all that much different that nicotine addiction? I've heard that nicotine addiction is one of the most difficult addictions to break. At one point I was up to between 2-3 packs a day. cig free now.
Cigarettes? A quick google search of "most difficult addiction to break" results in pages of people/scientist claiming nicotine is the most difficult. Followed by Heroin. Alcohol seemed to come in a several places behind Nicotine. Valium typically ranks higher.
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Cigarettes are the only thing I would say i've ever been addicted too. Well Caffeine as well, however I've never wanted to give up Caffeine. Between Caffeine and Nicotine though, I'd say Nicotine was very difficult to stop for me personally.
I wonder at what point you become an alcoholic. Because I went to Washington State which at the time was nationally know for being a huge party school. I drank every day for 4 years.... never really thought I was addicted though. When I graduated I kinda stopped drinking. Not because I didnt like getting drunk but because I didnt have the time for it with work and such. I never had any real withdrawals or anything noticeable.
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I remember when I would have nicotine fits because I waited an hour to smoke... And then when I finally got that cigarette, it was better than a steak dinner after not eating for a day. The satisfaction I received was unmatched. Glad I finally kicked it though, and for sure never want to go back.
It's a big deal cause I almost died from drinking multiple times, ER 6 times, handcuffed to the bed catheterized and charcoaled. It took me almost a year to get through withdraw to feel comfortable enough to leave the house. No I didn't go nuts and beat my wife or act crazy, I hooked my friend but I was hungover then, I just got trashed and passed out. My wife seen me struggle with this shit forever. She's scared to death and doesn't want to ever see me like that again. She's still mad but she came to a meeting with me last night. I put my hand up and told everyone my situation got alot of cool people offering to help and gave me there numbers and stuff if I need it. Going with one dude to a meeting tonight. Just want to get back on track and back in therapy and stuff to figure out more about myself. 3 days sober is better then 0.
Nah, I gotta put my sobriety before anything and everything else or I will have nothing. I'm going to a meeting everyday. I can't fucking drink, it will kill me but worst off hurt the ones that love me the most. I need to be hard on myself and take this serious and move forward in the right direction. A relapse can be the strongest motivator to get life on the right track. That's how I'm looking at it.
My wife's pissed at me and I guess I just need to vent. A buddy of mine came through last night, he had liquor and I fuckin drank. Almost 3 years sober. I got no one to blame but myself. My bands pissed at me, my wife is super pissed. I'm just dissapointed in myself. I'm stronger then that and I worked so fucking hard. This is a huge wake up call that maybe I should start going to meetings and gettin my inside head together. I donno. I feel like shit. I just have always been open about this with these boards so I figured I'd spill the beans here. Going to a meeting tomorrow. Can't get back into drinking full time. Sorry if anyone's mad at me for being a selfish piece of shit. I need to take this one chance I have and roll with it and let it be a lesson. I just wish I woulda talked to someone before I drank. Can't go in the past just looking forward.
maybe it's because I don't know how you are when you drink, but I dont see what the big deal is. I mean once in three years isnt a problem. Is it going to cause you to start getting drunk every night? Doesnt sound like it. Did you get so unruly that you started beating on your wife and friends when you were drunk? doesnt sound like it. So what's the big deal? Almost anything is okay in moderation. and once in three years is moderation.
Yeah I get that he was an alcoholic, but he isnt now- so what's the big deal if he got drunk one night 3 years after he hasnt had a drop? Im not trying to be obtuse, or insensitive. I just really don't see what the big deal is. I mean if this night were to lead to him getting drunk every night again, then I'd get it. Just seems that after three years, there isnt much of a risk of that... right?
Lol nice comeback. Figures that's all you have to say. You are a retard. Is it a big deal if I drink once every 3 years? No. Is it a big deal if I sniff a line every 3 years? No. Is it a big deal if a former alcoholic or coke head do them once every 3 years? Yes, because it can destroy however long of a sobriety streak they had and get them back on their self destructive path. It's not a difficult concept. You are retarded.
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Incorrect. At some point, depending on the substance, you no longer are physically addicted to the substance. You are no longer any different that you or I or someone else who has never been addicted to it. Except they might be at a better spot cause they know their limits.
As I previously said but you didnt quote that- I was a heavy smoker, and very addicted. I haven't smoked anything in probably close to 5 years. Today if I were to smoke a cig, I wouldnt be back on my 2 pack per day tomorrow. No, I kicked the addiction.
George breaking his sobriety isnt the first step back to him being a raging alcoholic. I mean it's cool if he wants to make a big deal of it so he can make sure he stays clean... but I trust him enough to know he isnt going to let it get control of his life again.
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Anyways, I guess all im trying to say is that I have George's back. I'm not disappointed that he got drunk after being sober for 3 years. I think it's okay, and im sorry his band and wife are pissed at him.
Is alcohol addiction really all that much different that nicotine addiction? I've heard that nicotine addiction is one of the most difficult addictions to break. At one point I was up to between 2-3 packs a day. cig free now.
https://www.google.com/search?q=most+difficult+addiction+to+break&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org
I wonder at what point you become an alcoholic. Because I went to Washington State which at the time was nationally know for being a huge party school. I drank every day for 4 years.... never really thought I was addicted though. When I graduated I kinda stopped drinking. Not because I didnt like getting drunk but because I didnt have the time for it with work and such. I never had any real withdrawals or anything noticeable.
I wish I drank more than I do now.
Good fucking God you are braindead.
As I previously said but you didnt quote that- I was a heavy smoker, and very addicted. I haven't smoked anything in probably close to 5 years. Today if I were to smoke a cig, I wouldnt be back on my 2 pack per day tomorrow. No, I kicked the addiction.
George breaking his sobriety isnt the first step back to him being a raging alcoholic. I mean it's cool if he wants to make a big deal of it so he can make sure he stays clean... but I trust him enough to know he isnt going to let it get control of his life again.