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Parents Keep Child's Gender A Secret.

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  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    So Nola, do you feel that gender is also just a matter of choice? maybe tomorrow you will realize you are a girl and go get a sex change?
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    edited May 2011
    so my musical choices is something i develop
    my taste in food is something i develop
    the sports i like is something i develop
    the kind of clothes i wear is something i develop
    the fetishes/ sexual preferences i have is something i develop
    the people i like is something i develop
    my motivation in life is something i develop

    but my sexualtiy is set in stone from the moment im born. give me a fuckin break
  • NecrothulhuNecrothulhu Posts: 33,444 master of ceremonies
    Some people in this world just fail to accept some things. Oh well
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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    once again offering no proof to your clam other than the fact that you know its right...good arguement
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    so my musical choices is something i develop
    my taste in food is something i develop
    the sports i like is something i develop
    the kind of clothes i wear is something i develop
    the fetishes/ sexual preferences i have is something i develop
    the people i like is something i develop
    my motivation in life is something i develop

    but my sexualtiy is set in stone from the moment im born. give me a fuckin break
    I was all on board with you until your sarcastic "Give me a Break"...

    Look... Some people that might really be bi-sexual (if there really is such a thing), might develop their preference as they grow and become more knowledgeable. But most people who are born with a strong inclination towards a certain gender wont ever develop a different sexuality. It aint gonna happen. Nothing makes my dick go more limp then seeing another dudes dick. That wasnt learned, it was generics.
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    at least im presenting a side...show me then the sceintific study where they concluded that a persons sexualtiy is completely genetic based
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    once again offering no proof to your clam other than the fact that you know its right...good arguement
    Proof? :-)) I don't think anyone here is going to be able to offer any proof. We are all just stating opinions right now. I get what you are trying to say, and maybe it is true. I just try and put myself in the situation you are describing and it seems like an impossibly that I would ever develop an attraction for men. Like no way brah. So it seems difficult to imagine that other people would be so different then me. I would imagine gay men, have always been fairly attracted to other guys. I dont envision them growing into it.
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    so my musical choices is something i develop
    my taste in food is something i develop
    the sports i like is something i develop
    the kind of clothes i wear is something i develop
    the fetishes/ sexual preferences i have is something i develop
    the people i like is something i develop
    my motivation in life is something i develop

    but my sexualtiy is set in stone from the moment im born. give me a fuckin break
    I was all on board with you until your sarcastic "Give me a Break"...

    Look... Some people that might really be bi-sexual (if there really is such a thing), might develop their preference as they grow and become more knowledgeable. But most people who are born with a strong inclination towards a certain gender wont ever develop a different sexuality. It aint gonna happen. Nothing makes my dick go more limp then seeing another dudes dick. That wasnt learned, it was generics.
    i still think that are people on this earth that ae gay that werent necessarily born gay, i belive maybe 85 percent were straight up born different, but maybe like 15 percent sort of gravitated to that side. now you may not have been born into a gray area hence you personally going on to like dudes is prolly extremely unlikely. but i think some people are born maybe a little more in the middle on what they like and therefore can go to either side more easily than someone like me or you
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    at least im presenting a side...show me then the sceintific study where they concluded that a persons sexualtiy is completely genetic based
    yeah... probably doesnt exist. I havent seen one.
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    at least im presenting a side...show me then the sceintific study where they concluded that a persons sexualtiy is completely genetic based
    yeah... probably doesnt exist. I havent seen one.
    well the girls are presenting this not as a debat but a fact that sexualtiy is 100 percent genetics based...
  • ZmbieFlavrdCupcakesZmbieFlavrdCupcakes Posts: 32,259 jayfacer
    Ill let ellie handle this one
    She seems more knowledgeable than me on this subject
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  • ZmbieFlavrdCupcakesZmbieFlavrdCupcakes Posts: 32,259 jayfacer
    Personally, I think that over time certain realizations of feelings can develop but I don't agree that it can be from tv or anything like that
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  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    i still think that are people on this earth that ae gay that werent necessarily born gay, i belive maybe 85 percent were straight up born different, but maybe like 15 percent sort of gravitated to that side. now you may not have been born into a gray area hence you personally going on to like dudes is prolly extremely unlikely. but i think some people are born maybe a little more in the middle on what they like and therefore can go to either side more easily than someone like me or you
    Sure... I don't have a problem with that. Who am I to say that people arent born Bi-Sexual. For the sake of this argument... lets say 60% of people are genetically born straight, 10% are genetically born gay, and 30% are genetically born Bi. If we are talking about someone who is in this grey Bi area, then yeah... I could see those people growing into deciding what gender really floats their boat. It must be pretty confusing for people like this.

    I think people that are genetically born straight or gay though, no way they are going to grow into liking the other gender.
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    well the girls are presenting this not as a debat but a fact that sexualtiy is 100 percent genetics based...
    :-)) you've got a lot to learn about arguing with women.
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    i still think that are people on this earth that ae gay that werent necessarily born gay, i belive maybe 85 percent were straight up born different, but maybe like 15 percent sort of gravitated to that side. now you may not have been born into a gray area hence you personally going on to like dudes is prolly extremely unlikely. but i think some people are born maybe a little more in the middle on what they like and therefore can go to either side more easily than someone like me or you
    Sure... I don't have a problem with that. Who am I to say that people arent born Bi-Sexual. For the sake of this argument... lets say 60% of people are genetically born straight, 10% are genetically born gay, and 30% are genetically born Bi. If we are talking about someone who is in this grey Bi area, then yeah... I could see those people growing into deciding what gender really floats their boat. It must be pretty confusing for people like this.

    I think people that are genetically born straight or gay though, no way they are going to grow into liking the other gender.
    this was all i was saying, thats how i pretty much feel summed up..
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    well the girls are presenting this not as a debat but a fact that sexualtiy is 100 percent genetics based...
    :-)) you've got a lot to learn about arguing with women.
    very true lol. i have a rough road ahead of me cuz im stubborn and wont give into womens bullshit...will see how that works out for me lol
  • ShaneShane Posts: 15,229 balls deep
    ITT: skully going full retard
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    well the girls are presenting this not as a debat but a fact that sexualtiy is 100 percent genetics based...
    :-)) you've got a lot to learn about arguing with women.
    very true lol. i have a rough road ahead of me cuz im stubborn and wont give into womens bullshit...will see how that works out for me lol
    Good women like someone who challenges them and disagrees with them.

    I absolutely can't stand a man who sits back and feels like he HAS to agree with me with every little thing. Such a turn off. D:

    About the whole sexuality thing, I can't explain the technical side as well as doing your own research would. Google sexuality, gender, gender identity, and read a psychology text book, especially about human development. :3c

    And do keep in mind sexuality is a very new subject, that's why there isn't as much research done on it. It's still kinda "taboo" I suppose you could say.
  • JLRedWing13JLRedWing13 Posts: 48,736 mod
    Personally, I think that over time certain realizations of feelings can develop but I don't agree that it can be from tv or anything like that
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  • SkullAndCrossbonesSkullAndCrossbones Posts: 16,452 destroyer of motherfuckers
    edited May 2011
    if sexuality is a new subject and there hasn't been much research on it how can some of you present your argruments as facts? and ellie, i dont buy that depression is a disease. you're saying theres 2 types of depression right? you said the first one was the feeling of sadness and whatnot, and all you said about the second was "its a disease". whats that second one feel like? depression? im sorry, i just don't automatically buy into stuff because its in a book or because scientists say so. not 1 person here has backed up their opinion with facts. all i saw was people stating what they believe followed by saying "there have been studies on this" or something like that.
    "That's another thing I love about metal, it's so fuckin' huge yet certain people don't even know it exists." - Rob Zombie
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