"john is right.....all this bill is screwing the middle class, and helping out all the big company's "
The "big companies" are going to take perhaps the biggest hit with over 400 billion in new taxes. The only entity that will benefit from this bill is Fedzilla.
I was wondering when the "because he's black" card was gonna get pulled lol
And the bill isn't the best, that's for sure. But that's the government for you. They're greedy and will always be greedy. I mean fuck, once you die they still get money out of you.
drinkwine732Posts: 20,418destroyer of motherfuckers
"those who are just angry just cuz they feel everyone shouldn't be able to get healthcare are not justified "
If they don't want everyone else to get healthcare, basically Ape's "it's a privilege not a right" stance, I think it's unjustified. However, the I don't like the bill but I like the idea is completely justified. This bill has several problems, but I think it should be passed anyway.
drinkwine732Posts: 20,418destroyer of motherfuckers
I consider it unjustified because the world does not give us all the same circumstances. We all aren't the same, we all don't have the same amount of money. Which is what your stance implies, that everyone should have the money and support structure that they have.
"I don't want it passed because there are better ways to do it......eventually we'll have to try to clean up the mess this bill is going to make."
I completely understand this stance. I disagree, but it's understandable.
drinkwine732Posts: 20,418destroyer of motherfuckers
"My stance says If I want something I go out and get it and sacrifice to get it. "
What if you have nothing to sacrifice?
"So you're telling me this is the most efficient way to fix healthcare? That it makes the most sense economically and socially over every alternative? "
No, but I don't believe we will ever have a bill that is the most efficient way to fix healthcare, and make sense economically and socially in the way you describe.
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The "big companies" are going to take perhaps the biggest hit with over 400 billion in new taxes. The only entity that will benefit from this bill is Fedzilla.
That is perhaps the most ignorant comment in this thread.
And the bill isn't the best, that's for sure. But that's the government for you. They're greedy and will always be greedy. I mean fuck, once you die they still get money out of you.
Edit:Yes Alec I am a registered voter.
Oh, and ignore Ed when he plays the race card, he just does it to be a troll.
If they don't want everyone else to get healthcare, basically Ape's "it's a privilege not a right" stance, I think it's unjustified. However, the I don't like the bill but I like the idea is completely justified. This bill has several problems, but I think it should be passed anyway.
"I don't want it passed because there are better ways to do it......eventually we'll have to try to clean up the mess this bill is going to make."
I completely understand this stance. I disagree, but it's understandable.
What if you have nothing to sacrifice?
"So you're telling me this is the most efficient way to fix healthcare? That it makes the most sense economically and socially over every alternative? "
No, but I don't believe we will ever have a bill that is the most efficient way to fix healthcare, and make sense economically and socially in the way you describe.