You're right, some people may experience things others dont. But I dont think thay means we have a deep systemic societal sociological problem on our hands. To me thats proof that we dont. That there is a group of people that deem themselves oppressed, and there are individuals in that group that arent bound by those oppressions is telling. There are individuals in this world are are racist/sexist or whatever. But that doesnt warrant a societal issue nor warrant an ideology or political movement. It just furthers division.
you're wrong but okay dude. if you think standing for those who are oppressed when you don't have to deal with those oppressions is some how "telling" or hypocritical, you got the whole shit fucked up. it means there is a problem, and even if i'm not dealing with it, I recognize it's an issue and it needs to be put to an end. there's only division because when people say black lives matter or when people say we need feminism people disagree. if instead people just got over their damn selves and would nut up and agree that black lives matter, or that we need feminism, there wouldn't be an issue. but since people can't look outside their own experiences, we are divided.
Is that really a surprise though? I mean, all we read, see and hear is propaganda and fear tactics. While I disagree with MC, I don't find it surprising or hard to believe when everything pushed out into the world is made to control and blind people.
I don't know if I would say that man. Naturally as humans we kind of put aside things we can't experience ourselves and if you've never had those experiences of racism and oppression, you're just naturally going to be a little one sided on those issues.
I don't have to be raped to know that rape is bad. I can empathize without going through it myself. Empathy for others isn't as hard as you guys make it out to be.
I don't know if I would say that man. Naturally as humans we kind of put aside things we can't experience ourselves and if you've never had those experiences of racism and depression, you're just naturally going to be a little one sided on those issues.
Likewise people are going to LOOK for those issues as well. People love to dwell in their echo chambers.
I'm not going to lie that I don't find myself in my own echo chamber when it comes to politics and society. The social and political journalists and commentators I follow on social media, and articles I read, and videos I watch on Youtube, while none entirely agree on everything, have the same basic basis of their channels, many people calling them the "internet skeptic community" or "the rationalists". But I at least get the opposing view points on Facebook and through the people I do like's analysis.
I don't have to be raped to know that rape is bad. I can empathize without going through it myself. Empathy for others isn't as hard as you guys make it out to be.
I'm not saying it is. He said it was just ideology. I disagree because I don't think racism and sexism are just ideologues. It's shit that happening everywhere all the time. I'm just saying its not that hard to see why MC can't put it into his perspective. Humans are selfish. It's just naturally something in our heads. He's not had to deal with it so I can see why he's (no offense)- ignorant to the situation. I don't think he's glorifying rape, either. That's a bit of an overstatement. Speaking more on the racism issues because anybody should be able to see that rape is wrong, it's just harder for people who haven't dealt with it to comprehend it. Case in point, MC. He's never really had to deal with it so it doesn't feel like an urgency or a mass issue to him. @Jobe
I just think it isn't as concrete as people would like to think. I used to be a very empathetic individual. Always putting others before myself. I even used to consider myself feminist, even some of the radical sides (for instance, I still think blow jobs are dehumanizing). But I dont like it as an ideology or movement. Feminism, specifically,I feel infantalizes women. Women dont need to be coddled. Yet Feminism treats women like a protected class, when I think they are equal.
With race, I've said many times, I think there are some issues. But I think the issue is nuanced. Obviously a lot of my opinions have recently been shaped by that sociology class I took last year. In which I discovered the regressive left, and that I was basically told "straight white men are bad" every class, and that I was called "problematic" for discussing biology in a sociology class (because apparently Feminism and biology are opposing). It turned me off of leftist ideologies. I wanted truth, not narrative.
It turned me onto the skeptic community and "The Rationalists" on Youtube, and Twitter. I started with Sargon of Akaad, and The Amazing Atheist, and Bill Maher, moving onto scientists like Sam Harris, and Thuderf00t, and baiters/trolls like Milo Yiannapolous and Anthony Fantano, and debaters/conversationalists like Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan, and women Youtubers like Lauren Southern and ShoeOnHead, and racial minority Youtubers like Tyler Preston and That Guy T and Some Black Guy and BASSFZz, and even trans people like Blair White, and porn stars like Mercedes Cerrera - that think the way that I do.
I literally watch videos, listen to podcasts, and read articles about things like race and racism, and sex and sexism, and religion and society every day.
My point was that you don't always have to go through what someone else has had to understand the reality of their situation. I don't need to have a pineapple in my ass before I realize that having a pineapple in your ass would suck. I don't have to have boobs to realize that dudes can be creepy as fuck towards women. Some shit you just understand.
And agree some dudes are creepy. But is the issue just that some dudes are creepy and some dudes aren't, or is it that there is a societal patriarchy keeping women down by sending creepy dudes out in the streets to make women feel uncomfortable 24/7, and therefore we need an entire movement to bitch about it?
Maybe, just maybe, some of them have legit issues with assholes and then some of them are just assholes themselves. Maybe there is a rational middle ground? Lol no, they are all out to get you cuz evil conspiracy. Run... well, walk at a brisk pace and hide.
Yeah MC. We're only a few decades removed from black people using different drinking fountains. That's a blink of an eye on the timeline of the human race. Racism is still engraned in our DNA. It's honestly probably never going to go away because it's passed down from parents to children.
And agree some dudes are creepy. But is the issue just that some dudes are creepy and some dudes aren't, or is it that there is a societal patriarchy keeping women down by sending creepy dudes out in the streets to make women feel uncomfortable 24/7, and therefore we need an entire movement to bitch about it?
You can't be this dense. Do you really think that's what people think the patriarchy is?
Mc's views on women and how women look at men are totally fucked, ignorant, and incorrect. Nothing to see here.
Mc is the old and bitter dude who thinks all chicks assume other men and himself are creepy just because he been turned down by a couple of women ( probably only one) in his life. The weird thing is he's not old yet.
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I'm not going to lie that I don't find myself in my own echo chamber when it comes to politics and society. The social and political journalists and commentators I follow on social media, and articles I read, and videos I watch on Youtube, while none entirely agree on everything, have the same basic basis of their channels, many people calling them the "internet skeptic community" or "the rationalists". But I at least get the opposing view points on Facebook and through the people I do like's analysis.
With race, I've said many times, I think there are some issues. But I think the issue is nuanced. Obviously a lot of my opinions have recently been shaped by that sociology class I took last year. In which I discovered the regressive left, and that I was basically told "straight white men are bad" every class, and that I was called "problematic" for discussing biology in a sociology class (because apparently Feminism and biology are opposing). It turned me off of leftist ideologies. I wanted truth, not narrative.
It turned me onto the skeptic community and "The Rationalists" on Youtube, and Twitter. I started with Sargon of Akaad, and The Amazing Atheist, and Bill Maher, moving onto scientists like Sam Harris, and Thuderf00t, and baiters/trolls like Milo Yiannapolous and Anthony Fantano, and debaters/conversationalists like Dave Rubin and Joe Rogan, and women Youtubers like Lauren Southern and ShoeOnHead, and racial minority Youtubers like Tyler Preston and That Guy T and Some Black Guy and BASSFZz, and even trans people like Blair White, and porn stars like Mercedes Cerrera - that think the way that I do.
I literally watch videos, listen to podcasts, and read articles about things like race and racism, and sex and sexism, and religion and society every day.
Discussions like this are important to have:
Mc is the old and bitter dude who thinks all chicks assume other men and himself are creepy just because he been turned down by a couple of women ( probably only one) in his life. The weird thing is he's not old yet.