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**Spoilers**The Dark Knight Discussion Thread

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  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,666 master of ceremonies
    Nolan's farewell letter to his Dark Knight franchise


    Alfred. Gordon. Lucius. Bruce . . . Wayne. Names that have come to mean so much to me. Today, I’m three weeks from saying a final good-bye to these characters and their world. It’s my son’s ninth birthday. He was born as the Tumbler was being glued together in my garage from random parts of model kits. Much time, many changes. A shift from sets where some gunplay or a helicopter were extraordinary events to working days where crowds of extras, building demolitions, or mayhem thousands of feet in the air have become familiar.

    People ask if we’d always planned a trilogy. This is like being asked whether you had planned on growing up, getting married, having kids. The answer is complicated. When David and I first started cracking open Bruce’s story, we flirted with what might come after, then backed away, not wanting to look too deep into the future. I didn’t want to know everything that Bruce couldn’t; I wanted to live it with him. I told David and Jonah to put everything they knew into each film as we made it. The entire cast and crew put all they had into the first film. Nothing held back. Nothing saved for next time. They built an entire city. Then Christian and Michael and Gary and Morgan and Liam and Cillian started living in it. Christian bit off a big chunk of Bruce Wayne’s life and made it utterly compelling. He took us into a pop icon’s mind and never let us notice for an instant the fanciful nature of Bruce’s methods.

    I never thought we’d do a second—how many good sequels are there? Why roll those dice? But once I knew where it would take Bruce, and when I started to see glimpses of the antagonist, it became essential. We re-assembled the team and went back to Gotham. It had changed in three years. Bigger. More real. More modern. And a new force of chaos was coming to the fore. The ultimate scary clown, as brought to terrifying life by Heath. We’d held nothing back, but there were things we hadn’t been able to do the first time out—a Batsuit with a flexible neck, shooting on Imax. And things we’d chickened out on—destroying the Batmobile, burning up the villain’s blood money to show a complete disregard for conventional motivation. We took the supposed security of a sequel as license to throw caution to the wind and headed for the darkest corners of Gotham.

    I never thought we’d do a third—are there any great second sequels? But I kept wondering about the end of Bruce’s journey, and once David and I discovered it, I had to see it for myself. We had come back to what we had barely dared whisper about in those first days in my garage. We had been making a trilogy. I called everyone back together for another tour of Gotham. Four years later, it was still there. It even seemed a little cleaner, a little more polished. Wayne Manor had been rebuilt. Familiar faces were back—a little older, a little wiser . . . but not all was as it seemed.

    Gotham was rotting away at its foundations. A new evil bubbling up from beneath. Bruce had thought Batman was not needed anymore, but Bruce was wrong, just as I had been wrong. The Batman had to come back. I suppose he always will.

    Michael, Morgan, Gary, Cillian, Liam, Heath, Christian . . . Bale. Names that have come to mean so much to me. My time in Gotham, looking after one of the greatest and most enduring figures in pop culture, has been the most challenging and rewarding experience a filmmaker could hope for. I will miss the Batman. I like to think that he’ll miss me, but he’s never been particularly sentimental.
  • fucketh_thine_selffucketh_thine_self Posts: 3,363 just the tip

    bitch had it coming

    i assume that was directed at me and my Talia comment.
    In the comic books, she never grew up in a Prison, she grew up by Ra's' side, Ra's eventually wants her to marry Bane but shes in love with Batman. in the comics she bounces back and forth from between her dad and Batman. eventually she does have a kid with Bruce, named Damion Wayne who eventually becomes either the fourth or fifth Robin
  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,041 master of ceremonies
    But Nolan doesn't take direct inspiration from the comics.
  • FIRENATHANIELHACKETTFIRENATHANIELHACKETT Posts: 35,453 spicy boy
    Xenocide said:

    But Nolan doesn't take direct inspiration from the comics.

    <____________>

    Orly?
  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,041 master of ceremonies
    if you think it's that obvious than don't bitch when things are different
  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,666 master of ceremonies
    Xenocide said:

    But Nolan doesn't take direct inspiration from the comics.

    <_>
  • FIRENATHANIELHACKETTFIRENATHANIELHACKETT Posts: 35,453 spicy boy
    Xenocide said:

    if you think it's that obvious than don't bitch when things are different

    Do you see me bitching about it being different?

    This is why you'll always be a noob.
  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,041 master of ceremonies
  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,666 master of ceremonies
    Wonder if he saw that facebook thing going around :-?
  • 1D_for_life1D_for_life Posts: 13,785 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Saw it for the second time tonight. =P~

    Going again soon to see it in IMAX
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  • ...... Posts: 31,548 master of ceremonies

    joker>bane

    Arguable.

    No.
    inb4lists
  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,666 master of ceremonies

    joker>bane

    hahahahahaha oh eee ah ha...I thought my jokes were bad.
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Heath ledger was incredible in that joker roll. One of the best acting jobs I ever seen, ever.
  • NecrothulhuNecrothulhu Posts: 33,444 master of ceremonies
    Joker is my favorite Batman villian. Heath Ledger did an incredible performance playing the Joker and has been the best Joker in a live action Batman movie. To me Hardy's performance as Bane was almost equal to Heath's as the Joker. But to me TDKR was slightly better because of the emotion, action, story ties, etc
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  • ...... Posts: 31,548 master of ceremonies
    Jack Nicholson > everyone
    inb4lists
  • 1D_for_life1D_for_life Posts: 13,785 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Arnold & Uma >>>>>>>>>>>>
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  • NecrothulhuNecrothulhu Posts: 33,444 master of ceremonies
    I love Jack Nicholson but that joker was meh. I didn't realize it when I was a kid because I loved those movies but I do now
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  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,666 master of ceremonies

    Jack Nicholson > everyone

    =)) :|
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers

    Jack Nicholson > everyone

    =)) :|
  • FLATFLAT Posts: 60,700 spicy boy
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