Obamacare passed in entirety!!! (Good news for people like me)

WakeOfAshes

Palin was such a joke it's hard to subjectively disassociate her from McCain.

Shane

had McCain picked Tom Ridge he would have won PA and had a shot in the northeast

drinkwine732

I don't think that it's as fixed as you think it is. The logistics involved in fixing an election of this size is so ridiculous that I'd be surprised if anyone is capable of it. This isn't like 2001 where it was illegitimate because they were trying to cover up their mistake, outright creating false results without a trail or substantial evidence is just impossible.

Sure, you could have a lot of people who support Paul in Texas, but it's not ridiculous to think that there were 800,000 more voters who voted for a mainstream candidate like Romney. Just because he didn't win his state doesn't mean the system is fixed against him. I think the media blackout against Paul has some credence, but it ends there.

Sure, there are more effective and fool-proof systems than the electoral college, but it's not like we're all sending our votes in by mail.

Also, McCain >>> Romney as a politician and as a candidate.

drinkwine732

So we can stay on our parents health care till 26 :-?

that rule has been in place for a while now

It was upheld today though.

drinkwine732

Solution: Education reform.

Shane

Solution: Education reform.

That is our countrys dire problem right now. Theres more student debt than credit card debt

drinkwine732

It has to happen in someone's second term, though. It's way too partisan to be something that happens during a first term. It will require the president to say fuck you and for congress to take charge.

WakeOfAshes

That aint true... Lincoln did it in his first term. He told congress and the supreme court to go fuck themselves, and took it upon himself to illegally invade the south. The supreme court made several rulings against him, and he just ignored them. What you described is more applicable to presidents this century though.

Razor_Shark

That aint true... Lincoln did it in his first term. He told congress and the supreme court to go fuck themselves, and took it upon himself to illegally invade the south. The supreme court made several rulings against him, and he just ignored them. What you described is more applicable to presidents this century though.

Ya but Lincoln is a well documented piece of shit

drinkwine732

That aint true... Lincoln did it in his first term. He told congress and the supreme court to go fuck themselves, and took it upon himself to illegally invade the south. The supreme court made several rulings against him, and he just ignored them. What you described is more applicable to presidents this century though.

Partisanism has never been more present in politics than today. Well, now and Ancient Rome.

WakeOfAshes

That aint true... Lincoln did it in his first term. He told congress and the supreme court to go fuck themselves, and took it upon himself to illegally invade the south. The supreme court made several rulings against him, and he just ignored them. What you described is more applicable to presidents this century though.

Partisanism has never been more present in politics than today. Well, now and Ancient Rome.

that's an interesting analogy.

JLRedWing13

Rex_Capone420

I don't think that it's as fixed as you think it is. The logistics involved in fixing an election of this size is so ridiculous that I'd be surprised if anyone is capable of it. This isn't like 2001 where it was illegitimate because they were trying to cover up their mistake, outright creating false results without a trail or substantial evidence is just impossible.

Sure, you could have a lot of people who support Paul in Texas, but it's not ridiculous to think that there were 800,000 more voters who voted for a mainstream candidate like Romney. Just because he didn't win his state doesn't mean the system is fixed against him. I think the media blackout against Paul has some credence, but it ends there.

Sure, there are more effective and fool-proof systems than the electoral college, but it's not like we're all sending our votes in by mail.

Also, McCain >>> Romney as a politician and as a candidate.

im not saying he should have won the state...but he should have at least been able to win his own district

Warrior_Yohn

I don't see how its the government's place to tell me I am required to have health insurance. Free health care is good idea. But this shit isn't free at all and it doesn't solve the problem. Biggest joke ever. More stupid liberals throwing more control at the government, hoping it fixes shit when it ends up making it worse lol.

SandyVagina

gov't has been doing this to us for years already with social security and medicare deductions on our paychecks (money we hopefully will see back in our 60's or 70's if we make it that far). and more recently with the medicare part d drug insurance they forced seniors to join. medicare patients still need to have a supplemental insurance policy to cover what medicare won't. the medical industry and the pharmaceutical companies have been draining the money out of medicare faster than it can go in.