so then once again, what about the people who lived before jesus, do they not ever get to go to heaven since jesus hadnt died for them yet? and since your going to say yes they can ill follow up with this question..if people could already get into heaven then what what was the significance of his sacrificial death?
Holy shit, I have never thought of this in my entire life. @-) I thank you kind sir!
I found the movie interesting from a historical perspective... did you as well? I dont think I'd like to see it multiple times though. Once was enough.
yes i found it very interesting, especially the pontious pilot parts
You told me you're going to Heaven even if you don't believe in God since God died on the cross. #-o
well let me once again inform you on your own religion
what do you think jesus died for then? i mean could you get into heaven before jesus died for your sins? was there a heaven? jesus did speak of going through him to get to heaven i will give you that but he did not say whether or not you have to do that in life jesus spoke to the disciple peter and told him, in lamens terms, there is no hell, that everyone eventually makes there way to heaven this was choosen to be left out of the bible centuries later when they were deciding what stories were to be included on jesus and which ones were not going to be included also jesus is technically not God himself, but the son of god
Jesus died so you COULD go to Heaven.
so then once again, what about the people who lived before jesus, do they not ever get to go to heaven since jesus hadnt died for them yet? and since your going to say yes they can ill follow up with this question..if people could already get into heaven then what what was the significance of his sacrificial death?
I don't have all the answers. If I had to say though, I would say they were able to go to Heaven because they already believed in God. There were teachers/preachers before Jesus died. And there were also miracles. Again, i don't have every single answer.
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also jesus is technically not God himself, but the son of god
I have always been confused by this ever since I was little. There is only ONE god, and only ONE person you worship, correct? So why do we hold Jesus in the same regard? And God made himself into his own son to die on the cross so you would worship him.
Either way, it doesn't make any sense to me.
I use to like to think of it as water can take three forms liquid, solid, and gas.... but all are the same essence with a different physical shape. I believe Jesus was supposed to be a from that made the essence of God more approachable. For humans to have an example of how they should live their life to have a relationship with him. Something like that.
BUT yeah I totally agree with you. The concept is confusing as hell and makes the whole story just sound made up )
Another thing I can't stand. When you have cancer, or something else is wrong with you..you go to the hospital to get treatment or get surgery. You end up getting cured, the cancer is gone or they fix what's wrong with you...but the person thanks god for saving their life. That irks me because the doctors saved your life, not god
WakeOfAshesPosts: 21,665destroyer of motherfuckers
wake asked me if ive ever sen the passion
I found the movie interesting from a historical perspective... did you as well? I dont think I'd like to see it multiple times though. Once was enough.
yes i found it very interesting, especially the pontious pilot parts
the concept of jesus is not that confusing...he was basically supposed to be half man half god...the characteristics of men but was also divine.. when jesus died and rose from the dead he would then be seated at the right hand of the father aka god.. he was brought to earth to die for the sins of humans, this was all predetermined by god
Another thing I can't stand. When you have cancer, or something else is wrong with you..you go to the hospital to get treatment or get surgery. You end up getting cured, the cancer is gone or they fix what's wrong with you...but the person thanks god for saving their life. That irks me because the doctors saved your life, not god
OMG THIS.
I also get so pissed off during holidays where my family gets together and my grandma makes this HUUUUUUUGE spread of food for everyone and they end up thanking Jesus for it. One of these days I just want to be like fuck you guys, Meme made all this shit for you ungrateful assholes.
i kinda picture jesus now ( since i dont really believe he is the son of god, i guess its a possiblity but an extremely small one) as like a gandhi X 10........ a great man who i would of loved to meet but not godly
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BUT yeah I totally agree with you. The concept is confusing as hell and makes the whole story just sound made up
I also get so pissed off during holidays where my family gets together and my grandma makes this HUUUUUUUGE spread of food for everyone and they end up thanking Jesus for it.
Very rarely are movies so raw and honest like the Passion.
i always wanted them to beat jesus harder for being a fag