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  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    You know what, I'm going to break this down for you.
    women aren't allowed to be drafted into the military, women are not allowed to be on the front lines in battle, both of which i agree with.
    So you agree that we shouldn't be equal in the first place. Personally, I wish NOBODY should be drafted. Fortunately I don't see another draft coming up in the future, so I don't think we have to worry about that in the first place.
    I think all he is saying is that there are physical strength differences between men and women, and women should not ever be drafted to the front line to have to fight other men. And I agree with this statement. However I also think the draft is forced slavery and that no one should be drafted so

    Anyways... I didnt take this comment of Skully's to mean that women should not be treated equal. He is just recognizing obvious differences and not being stupid in the name of equal rights.
    I think the strength thing is silly. That's just like saying women shouldn't become police officers.
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    ITT People mad
    Because civil rights is nothing to get upset about, right?
  • That_Guy_ArloThat_Guy_Arlo Posts: 14,026 master of ceremonies
    edited April 2011
    ITT People mad
    Because civil rights is nothing to get upset about, right?
    Yeah.......you........BLACK GUY!

    Edit: Love the sig though. Brilliant.
  • Shanez_WifeShanez_Wife Posts: 2,008 just the tip
    The same men who tell the women that she shouldn't/won't work when they get married or he gets a good job are the same men who refuse to pay alimony. In my case, Shane's getting to go to school to get his CDL and telling me to stay at home and focus on school and a part time job. In return, that puts my future on hold for him. If he leaves me in the next year or 2, I basically wasted 2 years and I'd get nothing in return for that. However, he'll have his school done and a decent job and I'll basically have nothing.
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    ITT People mad
    Because civil rights is nothing to get upset about, right?
    Yeah.......you........BLACK GUY!
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that an umbrella term for race and sex rights?
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers

    I can totally see where you're coming from. I just think that would be the best situation out of a bad one, y'know? It's shitty to have to give your money away, but there's some women who wouldn't have anything if there was no legal way to get money from their husbands, even though it was mutual in their marriage that she didn't have to have a job.
    All I am saying is that child support should be kinda phased out* and child custody should be split**.

    *By kinda phased out I mean that just because the wife was a stay at home mom, doesnt mean that should be her "job" for the next 18 years at the ex-husbands expense. If she doesnt want to be married to him anymore, then she should have to formulate some method she is going to use to be financially self sufficient. She isnt going to have the same sort of income as when she was married....

    **I am assuming both parents want custody and custody is split 50/50. They should work out times when they will have the kids. And if one parent is unreasonable about times, then they should lose custody. Or if one parent doesnt want any custody, then they should be hit with child support.

    If both parents are raising the kids 50/50, then they are already splitting the expense. the ex wife should get some alimony to help her get back on her feet. that is it. being married to someone shouldn't give you a free ride in life.
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  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    The same men who tell the women that she shouldn't/won't work when they get married or he gets a good job are the same men who refuse to pay alimony. In my case, Shane's getting to go to school to get his CDL and telling me to stay at home and focus on school and a part time job. In return, that puts my future on hold for him. If he leaves me in the next year or 2, I basically wasted 2 years and I'd get nothing in return for that. However, he'll have his school done and a decent job and I'll basically have nothing.
    See, this is the point I was trying to make. There's nothing wrong with your situation, but if you guys already agreed upon you staying at home, and then things just didn't work out then you should get some compensation.
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip

    I can totally see where you're coming from. I just think that would be the best situation out of a bad one, y'know? It's shitty to have to give your money away, but there's some women who wouldn't have anything if there was no legal way to get money from their husbands, even though it was mutual in their marriage that she didn't have to have a job.
    All I am saying is that child support should be kinda phased out* and child custody should be split**.

    *By kinda phased out I mean that just because the wife was a stay at home mom, doesnt mean that should be her "job" for the next 18 years at the ex-husbands expense. If she doesnt want to be married to him anymore, then she should have to formulate some method she is going to use to be financially self sufficient. She isnt going to have the same sort of income as when she was married....

    **I am assuming both parents want custody and custody is split 50/50. They should work out times when they will have the kids. And if one parent is unreasonable about times, then they should lose custody. Or if one parent doesnt want any custody, then they should be hit with child support.

    If both parents are raising the kids 50/50, then they are already splitting the expense. the ex wife should get some alimony to help her get back on her feet. that is it. being married to someone shouldn't give you a free ride in life.
    Oh dude, I definitely agree with this. I just meant they should get enough to get back up on their feet. Giving them a free ride forever is just ridiculous.
  • That_Guy_ArloThat_Guy_Arlo Posts: 14,026 master of ceremonies
    ITT People mad
    Because civil rights is nothing to get upset about, right?
    Yeah.......you........BLACK GUY!
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that an umbrella term for race and sex rights?
    Yes, I was just being stupid/unfunny there.
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers

    I think the strength thing is silly. That's just like saying women shouldn't become police officers.
    you're being silly. If we had physical fights here, I would probably lose to most guys here. I could however beat 99% of all girls that wanted to fight me in a fist fight.

    In front line battles, the enemy wont stop because you are a girl. It is a huge physical handicap and it is not far.

    With police you typically are the only one with a gun. In war your opponent has weapons too.

  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    i would say wake could beat up more like 53 percent of girls...
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip

    I think the strength thing is silly. That's just like saying women shouldn't become police officers.
    you're being silly. If we had physical fights here, I would probably lose to most guys here. I could however beat 99% of all girls that wanted to fight me in a fist fight.

    In front line battles, the enemy wont stop because you are a girl. It is a huge physical handicap and it is not far.

    With police you typically are the only one with a gun. In war your opponent has weapons too.

    But the women you are claiming to have a fist fight with aren't trained for any sort of combat unlike police officers and soldiers.

    And of course I know that they won't stop because you're female. They might want to kill you first if they see you are, lol. But that's another point. Weapons. It doesn't matter what gender you are if you know how to properly use one.
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    The same men who tell the women that she shouldn't/won't work when they get married or he gets a good job are the same men who refuse to pay alimony. In my case, Shane's getting to go to school to get his CDL and telling me to stay at home and focus on school and a part time job. In return, that puts my future on hold for him. If he leaves me in the next year or 2, I basically wasted 2 years and I'd get nothing in return for that. However, he'll have his school done and a decent job and I'll basically have nothing.
    right... and in this case I think Alimony would be completely justified. However if he finishes up his CDL and then tells you to go finish up school, and then things dont work out.... I dont know if I'd support Alimony then.

    The problem is though that the family court system can't make these sort of reasonable compromises. It is typically one sided in the womans favor no mater what the circumstances.
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    edited April 2011
    The same men who tell the women that she shouldn't/won't work when they get married or he gets a good job are the same men who refuse to pay alimony. In my case, Shane's getting to go to school to get his CDL and telling me to stay at home and focus on school and a part time job. In return, that puts my future on hold for him. If he leaves me in the next year or 2, I basically wasted 2 years and I'd get nothing in return for that. However, he'll have his school done and a decent job and I'll basically have nothing.
    right... and in this case I think Alimony would be completely justified. However if he finishes up his CDL and then tells you to go finish up school, and then things dont work out.... I dont know if I'd support Alimony then.

    The problem is though that the family court system can't make these sort of reasonable compromises. It is typically one sided in the womans favor no mater what the circumstances.
    And that's bullshit. I hate it when women get better treatment JUST BECAUSE they're female. Hell, even small things like opening a door. I want you to open the door for me because you're trying to be nice, not because I'm a woman.

    And when I open the door for you, GO THROUGH IT DAMMIT.
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    i would say wake could beat up more like 53 percent of girls...
    lol. okay you got me. I can beat up 53 percent of girls and Nola. ;-)
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
  • NOCAPNOCAP Posts: 37,307 mod
    ITT People mad
    Because civil rights is nothing to get upset about, right?
    I was joking. <_>


  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers


    But the women you are claiming to have a fist fight with aren't trained for any sort of combat unlike police officers and soldiers.

    And of course I know that they won't stop because you're female. They might want to kill you first if they see you are, lol. But that's another point. Weapons. It doesn't matter what gender you are if you know how to properly use one.
    But I'm not trained either... that is my point. If you train me then I'm not losing to any girl period.

    I guess you have a point on weapons. especially consider most modern warfare is fought behind a computer.

    Really though.... no one should be drafted :)
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    ITT People mad
    Because civil rights is nothing to get upset about, right?
    I was joking. <_>
    Then I apologize.

    Sorry, the whole "OMG LOLO U GAIS R SO MAD LOL" gets a little annoying after a while.
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