WakeOfAshesPosts: 21,665destroyer of motherfuckers
I know women who pay alimony as well as childsupport. As far as the laundry thing, just give the truth. I'd give anything to have Shane help more around the house. Even a simple thing such as keeping me company while I clean the kitchen would make me want to clean more.
women that come out of a divorce paying alimony or child support are very very few and very far between.
there was a time when I was forced to file for divorce from my wife because she had fled the state with our child while I was at work. She said she was never coming back and refused to talk to me. I hired literally the best law-firm in california and filed for divorce which forced her to return to the state with the child.
My lawyer made it very clear what the best case outcome was for me.... I'd get to see my child one or two nights a week (not sleep overs, just a couple of hours). I would only have to pay alimony for 6 months but my child support payments would be on the order of 4,000 dollars per month. As she explained it... I was in a very unfortunate spot. she didnt work and I made enough money that they would take most of it without any disregard to my tax rate. So without her and the kids, Id have been paying the government about 1/3 of my income, I'd been paying her over half of my income, and I'd have roughly 10k left over to live on. Oh and I get all the debt and she gets a clean slate.
it was totally fucked up. I talked to other lawyers and they explained that what my lawyer had told me was pretty accurate in CA. so I patched things up with her and things are fine now (i guess) but needless to say I am still very bitter at the family court system. I am a good dad and they were going to take my babies away from me and make it so I had to work my ass off for less income then I would have made at McD's.
You know what, I'm going to break this down for you.
women aren't allowed to be drafted into the military, women are not allowed to be on the front lines in battle, both of which i agree with.
So you agree that we shouldn't be equal in the first place. Personally, I wish NOBODY should be drafted. Fortunately I don't see another draft coming up in the future, so I don't think we have to worry about that in the first place.
and my point for the whole "deep down or even subcontiously women dont want equal rights" thing was that theres small things where women say they want to be treated equally but a lot of women are in favor of alimony and shit like that.
WHAT THE SHIT?! I'm sorry Skully, I honestly like you, but this seriously made me rage like no tomorrow. NOT ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME. I personally hate it when a hardworking guy gets a divorce and has to give half of his hard earned money to some bitch. BUT, there are some women who don't work who are housewives and probably need the money. It's not like they can live in the same house as their ex husband, and maybe the have no where else to go.
And no, I DO want equal rights. I wish women were paid the same as a man, which has happened to me before when my bf at the time was getting paid more than me when I had been working at the same place for ix months already and was the one who got him the job. I was also a LOT harder of a worker than he was, yet somehow he got paid more than me? The fuck is that bullshit?
theres also the whole abortion/adoption thing. it seems like the father of the child/children has very little say in what actually happens. its both their child, they should both have equal say.
WHAT. THE. FUCK. Sorry, I do NOT want a man telling me to keep a clump of cells I certainly do not want. Who goes through all the pain and has the fucking thing physically inside them and has to take responsibility of taking care of themselves throughout the entire pregnancy? THE WOMAN. Nobody but the woman should have a say in what they can do with their own body. I would be absolutely TERRIFIED if this were a law. If I don't want a child, I'm not going to fucking have it. And no woman should if she doesn't want to.
With adoption, I'm almost certain you have to be a couple to adopt anyway.
I don't get it when a guy really wants a baby and a woman is a complete cunt and says "go fuck yourself" and gets an abortion. I knew a girl who got an abortion because her bf made her mad over something really really stupid. I personally want a baby more than anything right now but it just doesn't seem like it's happening anytime soon. However, I do have an appointment for a prego test next week. I had to get a lot of them for missing periods so I'm not getting my hopes up.
WakeOfAshesPosts: 21,665destroyer of motherfuckers
WHAT THE SHIT?! I'm sorry Skully, I honestly like you, but this seriously made me rage like no tomorrow. NOT ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME. I personally hate it when a hardworking guy gets a divorce and has to give half of his hard earned money to some bitch. BUT, there are some women who don't work who are housewives and probably need the money. It's not like they can live in the same house as their ex husband, and maybe the have no where else to go.
And no, I DO want equal rights. I wish women were paid the same as a man, which has happened to me before when my bf at the time was getting paid more than me when I had been working at the same place for ix months already and was the one who got him the job. I was also a LOT harder of a worker than he was, yet somehow he got paid more than me? The fuck is that bullshit?
Before I respond here, I want to say I like you
Anyways, it is nice to hear you say this, but I think you are in a very vast minority. If more women felt like this, then our family court system wouldn't be so fucked up. Why aren't more people outraged by the state of affairs of our legal system? It is bullshit.
I think you and I could sit down and have a very reasonable discussion about what should happen. Reasonable people could easily do that, but the court system is so fucked that it makes that impossible.
Lets take your housewife situation.... Fine, I agree... she hasnt worked before and needs some help from her husband. But it shouldnt be a free fucking ride for her now. Why the hell would my wife get 4k of money from me that I have to pay fucking taxes on? That is tax free money for her that she can spend any way she wants... Yet I'm going to have to find a way to live on like 800 a month?
Things are just fucked up... and I appreciate the fact that you are reasonable and would have sympathy with guys. But that sympathy isnt going to change our fucked up legal system
WHAT THE SHIT?! I'm sorry Skully, I honestly like you, but this seriously made me rage like no tomorrow. NOT ALL WOMEN ARE THE SAME. I personally hate it when a hardworking guy gets a divorce and has to give half of his hard earned money to some bitch. BUT, there are some women who don't work who are housewives and probably need the money. It's not like they can live in the same house as their ex husband, and maybe the have no where else to go.
And no, I DO want equal rights. I wish women were paid the same as a man, which has happened to me before when my bf at the time was getting paid more than me when I had been working at the same place for ix months already and was the one who got him the job. I was also a LOT harder of a worker than he was, yet somehow he got paid more than me? The fuck is that bullshit?
Before I respond here, I want to say I like you
Anyways, it is nice to hear you say this, but I think you are in a very vast minority. If more women felt like this, then our family court system wouldn't be so fucked up. Why aren't more people outraged by the state of affairs of our legal system? It is bullshit.
I think you and I could sit down and have a very reasonable discussion about what should happen. Reasonable people could easily do that, but the court system is so fucked that it makes that impossible.
Lets take your housewife situation.... Fine, I agree... she hasnt worked before and needs some help from her husband. But it shouldnt be a free fucking ride for her now. Why the hell would my wife get 4k of money from me that I have to pay fucking taxes on? That is tax free money for her that she can spend any way she wants... Yet I'm going to have to find a way to live on like 800 a month?
Things are just fucked up... and I appreciate the fact that you are reasonable and would have sympathy with guys. But that sympathy isnt going to change our fucked up legal system
I likes you to!
I can totally see where you're coming from. I just think that would be the best situation out of a bad one, y'know? It's shitty to have to give your money away, but there's some women who wouldn't have anything if there was no legal way to get money from their husbands, even though it was mutual in their marriage that she didn't have to have a job.
WakeOfAshesPosts: 21,665destroyer of motherfuckers
You know what, I'm going to break this down for you.
women aren't allowed to be drafted into the military, women are not allowed to be on the front lines in battle, both of which i agree with.
So you agree that we shouldn't be equal in the first place. Personally, I wish NOBODY should be drafted. Fortunately I don't see another draft coming up in the future, so I don't think we have to worry about that in the first place.
I think all he is saying is that there are physical strength differences between men and women, and women should not ever be drafted to the front line to have to fight other men. And I agree with this statement. However I also think the draft is forced slavery and that no one should be drafted so
Anyways... I didnt take this comment of Skully's to mean that women should not be treated equal. He is just recognizing obvious differences and not being stupid in the name of equal rights.
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there was a time when I was forced to file for divorce from my wife because she had fled the state with our child while I was at work. She said she was never coming back and refused to talk to me. I hired literally the best law-firm in california and filed for divorce which forced her to return to the state with the child.
My lawyer made it very clear what the best case outcome was for me.... I'd get to see my child one or two nights a week (not sleep overs, just a couple of hours). I would only have to pay alimony for 6 months but my child support payments would be on the order of 4,000 dollars per month. As she explained it... I was in a very unfortunate spot. she didnt work and I made enough money that they would take most of it without any disregard to my tax rate. So without her and the kids, Id have been paying the government about 1/3 of my income, I'd been paying her over half of my income, and I'd have roughly 10k left over to live on. Oh and I get all the debt and she gets a clean slate.
it was totally fucked up. I talked to other lawyers and they explained that what my lawyer had told me was pretty accurate in CA. so I patched things up with her and things are fine now (i guess) but needless to say I am still very bitter at the family court system. I am a good dad and they were going to take my babies away from me and make it so I had to work my ass off for less income then I would have made at McD's.
And no, I DO want equal rights. I wish women were paid the same as a man, which has happened to me before when my bf at the time was getting paid more than me when I had been working at the same place for ix months already and was the one who got him the job. I was also a LOT harder of a worker than he was, yet somehow he got paid more than me? The fuck is that bullshit? WHAT. THE. FUCK. Sorry, I do NOT want a man telling me to keep a clump of cells I certainly do not want. Who goes through all the pain and has the fucking thing physically inside them and has to take responsibility of taking care of themselves throughout the entire pregnancy? THE WOMAN. Nobody but the woman should have a say in what they can do with their own body. I would be absolutely TERRIFIED if this were a law. If I don't want a child, I'm not going to fucking have it. And no woman should if she doesn't want to.
With adoption, I'm almost certain you have to be a couple to adopt anyway.
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Yeah I lost count too :-S
Arlo mad too.
And how is Arlo mad? He seems calm to- OH FUCK NO HE JUST CAME IN HERE AND PUNCHED ME IN THE FACE!!!
Anyways, it is nice to hear you say this, but I think you are in a very vast minority. If more women felt like this, then our family court system wouldn't be so fucked up. Why aren't more people outraged by the state of affairs of our legal system? It is bullshit.
I think you and I could sit down and have a very reasonable discussion about what should happen. Reasonable people could easily do that, but the court system is so fucked that it makes that impossible.
Lets take your housewife situation.... Fine, I agree... she hasnt worked before and needs some help from her husband. But it shouldnt be a free fucking ride for her now. Why the hell would my wife get 4k of money from me that I have to pay fucking taxes on? That is tax free money for her that she can spend any way she wants... Yet I'm going to have to find a way to live on like 800 a month?
Things are just fucked up... and I appreciate the fact that you are reasonable and would have sympathy with guys. But that sympathy isnt going to change our fucked up legal system
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I can totally see where you're coming from. I just think that would be the best situation out of a bad one, y'know? It's shitty to have to give your money away, but there's some women who wouldn't have anything if there was no legal way to get money from their husbands, even though it was mutual in their marriage that she didn't have to have a job.
Anyways... I didnt take this comment of Skully's to mean that women should not be treated equal. He is just recognizing obvious differences and not being stupid in the name of equal rights.