for the people that hate Moore and say that everything he says is bullshit please explain to me where these conclusions came from and evidence to support it. i really don't know much about him or his views but from what i've seen he seems like he does the research to back up his opinions
i actually thought after watching most his documentaries that he skews his research in his favor, like covering stories for his side only and not taking in all the issues of the subject, especially in bowling for columbine
Doesn't every "reporter" do that? Isn't that what they're trained to do.
I just like that Moore looks at the side of the story that most people don't look at. If someone were to write a movie/book/article with ALL the relevant information people wouldn't read it because it wouldn't be interesting enough. It happens all the time on here "I'm not reading that someone tell me what it says" and you get their opinion on what it says.
I agree. That is what they're supposed to do. Which is why I don't watch the news hardly ever, because they put the worst shit ever on there and the most depressing. I would say 1 out of 50 stories would be positive or good. I have no clue why they do that because I don't know why people want to hear that shit all the time unless its to put fear into the nation. Also, when it comes to Moore, you just have to pay attention to what he's talking about and the point he's trying to make. Because with Columbine, everyone blamed Marylin Manson. Why did that do this? Because they wanted to point fingers which is retarded as well because they don't want to see the big picture.
for the people that hate Moore and say that everything he says is bullshit please explain to me where these conclusions came from and evidence to support it. i really don't know much about him or his views but from what i've seen he seems like he does the research to back up his opinions
i actually thought after watching most his documentaries that he skews his research in his favor, like covering stories for his side only and not taking in all the issues of the subject, especially in bowling for columbine
Doesn't every "reporter" do that? Isn't that what they're trained to do.
I just like that Moore looks at the side of the story that most people don't look at. If someone were to write a movie/book/article with ALL the relevant information people wouldn't read it because it wouldn't be interesting enough. It happens all the time on here "I'm not reading that someone tell me what it says" and you get their opinion on what it says.
lol julian,yes alot of journalists do do that and thats what makes them bad journalists, including moore. a good documentarian should try and show the truth of situations instead of trying to push it one way or another in your favor. i will def. agree there is a lack of people who do this but that doesnt make moore good, you know what i mean?
Absolutely, the thing that justifies Moore's shit for me is that he seems like a "for the people" kinda guy, I respect that. I hate how economies and shit are run, I hate government, no system we have is adequate to properly manage any kind of population we just make due with what we can. Governments have an obligation to listen to the words of the people and act for the people, not any other agenda; the population has an obligation to contribute positively to society and GO VOTE, and like has been said here many times: not enough money? go earn some. Obviously it goes further than that and there are extenuating circumstances but no government ANYWHERE fulfills the obligation to serve.
well you can like what moore represents but all he ever does is say how the other side is bad and doesnt seem to really present any real solutions to any of the problems he comes across...
well you can like what moore represents but all he ever does is say how the other side is bad and doesnt seem to really present any real solutions to any of the problems he comes across...
I like the fact he's putting a light on the shit people want to turn their heads and ears away from. Sure he doesn't present solutions, but at least some people pay attention and go "hey, this is a problem and we need to figure out how to fix it". Kinda like putting a seed in the ground to grow
i dont really mind what moore does. like you said he does shine a light on issues which is good. just dont be like the other 'bad' guys and skew your research footage for two reasons
1. it makes you look like a bad journalists/documentarian and people will hold that against you 2. the dumb people will buy into your story 100 percent with blinders on and once again not grasp the topic at hand.
Yes, well the government isn't what it is supposed to be. Even if he did present solutions who's gonna listen? the gov isn't gonna change their mind because of one person. Moore is presenting the information, it's time that the populations think for themselves and come up with their own solutions.
Even then we have to learn to use this system we're trapped in against us. You guys know that you have the right to overthrow the government right? Your forefathers gave you that right after the American revolution. The catch? Do you really think the government in power now would ever allow any population to overthrow their own government. It wouldn't happen, and we would be forced into an Orwellian society. The American revolution was only the beginning and it's gonna be the model for wars to come. Soon people will realize how shackled we truly are and how many of our "rights" are just illusions. I fear for the future because of how mindless our populations have become. Everyone expects someone else to give them the answer, no one is just gonna hand you the answers because no one has the answers yet. The first step is to tear down these miserable excuses for governments.
julian, we have it pretty good in this country. which of your rights do you feel are infringed upon? and also if we were to overthrow this govt, would that improve the majority of lives in this country?
I'm trying to speak about governments in general, I'm from Canada. I don't know how it is down there but natives here are living in poverty. To the same degree of people in Africa/India/whereeverthefuckistan but the government literally refuses to acknowledge that there is a problem. I suppose maybe addressing them as rights was the wrong way to put it. I merely feel that the Governments are not focusing on their responsibilities. We ended absolute monarchy so that we could stop corruption and stop a person or small group of people from having all the power. The US is supposed to be a republic. A republic is a number of states or city-states (in reference to where republics started - Italy) that work have their own laws and are governed by a group that is supposed to represent the people, The Senate. There's so much damn corruption that it takes years for anything effective to be done. That's why I think the governments need to torn down. Tbh, I think governments need to be periodically dismantled and reassembled to halt corruption because everything starts well, look at your first however many presidents, Abe Lincoln for example. These were people that were for the people, not people who wanted to further their own lives. That's not what happens now, everyone tries to work their own agenda behind the scenes so important matters are simply overlooked, or bluntly ignored.
These were people that were for the people, not people who wanted to further their own lives. That's not what happens now, everyone tries to work their own agenda behind the scenes so important matters are simply overlooked, or bluntly ignored.
well your from canada so u might not know american history very well, but our govt has been corrupt since the day we set it up and thats just the sad fact. we have had good presidents but if you were to know everything the presidents publicly did and privately did you would probably be sickened
Even, so you have to admit, a lot more was done that was good than for the bad. It's not only governments are too blame. We have an entire generation that is just happy with whatever, completely complacent not knowing a fucking thing about the events of the world. It disgusts me, so many people from this generation "don't vote because the government sucks" or are just simply too lazy to think critically about what politicians are presenting. I fear for the future because politicians are eventually going to be walking into office with barely any election process because people simply won't care until the government tells them that they aren't allowed to to certain things. The only way you'll move my generation is by affecting their cellphones or the internet, or than that they don't give a flying shit. So, I guess I don't blame the governments they don't care because no one else does.
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1. it makes you look like a bad journalists/documentarian and people will hold that against you
2. the dumb people will buy into your story 100 percent with blinders on and once again not grasp the topic at hand.
Even then we have to learn to use this system we're trapped in against us. You guys know that you have the right to overthrow the government right? Your forefathers gave you that right after the American revolution. The catch? Do you really think the government in power now would ever allow any population to overthrow their own government. It wouldn't happen, and we would be forced into an Orwellian society. The American revolution was only the beginning and it's gonna be the model for wars to come. Soon people will realize how shackled we truly are and how many of our "rights" are just illusions. I fear for the future because of how mindless our populations have become. Everyone expects someone else to give them the answer, no one is just gonna hand you the answers because no one has the answers yet. The first step is to tear down these miserable excuses for governments.
and also if we were to overthrow this govt, would that improve the majority of lives in this country?
well your from canada so u might not know american history very well, but our govt has been corrupt since the day we set it up and thats just the sad fact. we have had good presidents but if you were to know everything the presidents publicly did and privately did you would probably be sickened
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Anyway moore is a very bias reporter as are many that's why you should do the research yourself and formulate your opinion on your own.