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Pentagon plans $60 billion weapons sale to Saudi Arabia

Alec29Alec29 Posts: 3,864 juggalo
edited October 2010 in Off Topic
The Defense Department has notified Congress that it wants to sell $60 billion worth of advanced aircraft and weapons to Saudi Arabia. The proposed sale, which includes helicopters, fighter jets, radar equipment and satellite-guided bombs, would be the largest arms deal to another country in U.S. history if the sale goes through and all purchases are made.

Congress has 30 days to review the sale before the Pentagon and the weapons makers go into more detailed contract discussions with Saudi Arabia. Congress is expected to review the deal when it is back in session after the elections.

The arms package includes 84 new F-15 fighter jets and upgrades to 70 more F-15s that the Saudis already have, as well as three types of helicopters: 70 Apaches, 72 Black Hawks and 36 Little Birds. Saudi Arabia would also get versions of a satellite-guided "smart bomb" system, plus anti-ship and anti-radar missiles.

The deal could be completed over five to 10 years, depending on production schedules and training needed.

Defense industry analysts said the weapons sale is key to U.S. efforts to boost support among Arab allies and counter any threats from Iran. The deal is also seen as a boon for U.S. defense companies as the Pentagon tightens its budget in ways that could curb contracting opportunities.

Boeing makes the F-15, the Apaches, the Little Birds and some of the other equipment. Raytheon makes some of the anti-radar missiles.

"There's an enormous amount at stake in terms of U.S. foreign policy, credibility in the region, and the health of the aerospace industry," said Richard Aboulafia, an aerospace industry analyst at the Teal Group in Fairfax. "When you sell combat aircraft you're also selling a strategic relationship. It is a symbolic commitment to consult on common defense issues, and when you operate the same equipment, that often means joint training and an ongoing military relationship."

Andrew J. Shapiro, assistant secretary for political military affairs at the State Department, said the administration had looked at the regional balance of power in the Middle East and "concluded it would not negatively impact Israel's security interests or Israel's qualitative military edge." Israel recently signed a deal to buy 20 U.S. F-35 Joint Strike Fighter jets.

"The U.S. gets to reinforce a relationship with an important ally," Aboulafia said. "It gets to cement its dominance on the military aerospace export market. And Israel gets a pretty good deal in return."

But some on Capitol Hill are already expressing reservations.

"It seems to be rewarding a country that hasn't been particularly helpful to any of our foreign policy objectives and one that doesn't seem to be well-suited to be a military bulwark against Iran," said Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.). He said he was also "troubled" by the administration's decision to announce the arms deal while Congress is in recess.

"This is too important of a deal to be dropping in the middle of an election recess," he said. "The inescapable conclusion based on the timing is that they did not want Congress to take a hard look at this deal."

Weiner said he plans to work with congressional leaders to try to stop the deal from going through but acknowledged that it would be difficult to block.

Doing so would require approval from the House and the Senate. Defense industry analysts say Congress in the past has only been successful in getting adjustments made to arms sales - not formally blocking them.




Obama administration trying to slide one past us..........
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  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    didnt reagan get in trouble for something like this???
  • rammstein516rammstein516 Posts: 3,720 juggalo
    Great, now the US will get into a war with Saudi Arabia 10 years after they sell weapons to them.
  • JLRedWing13JLRedWing13 Posts: 48,722 mod
    Too bad it's going to go through. -_-
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  • Alec29Alec29 Posts: 3,864 juggalo
    I think it's really interesting that the Obama administration would try and sneak this through while Congress is in recess for the upcoming elections. Does anybody else feel lied to? This sale will only inflame others in that region.........I fear that the US will never get out of the Middle East. Such a shame too as that was part of Obama's election platform......to get us out of the Middle East.
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    laurjohn, who u voting for gov?
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    laurjohn, who u voting for gov?
    Anybody but Deval! so i guess Baker. lesser of 2 evils thing
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    laurjohn, who u voting for gov?
    Anybody but Deval! so i guess Baker. lesser of 2 evils thing
    ahh Baker is bum too, Cahill is my man. people need to pull there heads outta there asses with this two party shit, Baker would suck just as bad....
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  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    laurjohn, who u voting for gov?
    Anybody but Deval! so i guess Baker. lesser of 2 evils thing
    ahh Baker is bum too, Cahill is my man. people need to pull there heads outta there asses with this two party shit, Baker would suck just as bad....
    whenever i vote for a third option, they get less than 1% of the vote. I would rather vote for someone with a chance to win. Deval pisses me off with the whole casino thing. Supports it until he finds he has to work for it, then turns against it
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    believe me i dont like patrick either, but you have to vote on who you think is the BEST candidate for the job and I dont think cahill will get less than one percent. one day people will learn to vote for whos best instead of the opposite of what they dont want
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    believe me i dont like patrick either, but you have to vote on who you think is the BEST candidate for the job and I dont think cahill will get less than one percent. one day people will learn to vote for whos best instead of the opposite of what they dont want
    for state rep, i am voting a guy i like out for someone else i think can bring change and for congress i am voting for the lesser of 2 evils. one common theme is that we need change in mass, and i think Baker can bring that.
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    well i would vote baker way before duvall, but baker just strikes me as another "people are sick of patricks crap so im just gonna play against him to get votes instead of actually figuring better ways to change things"
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    baker is different. he would run the state like a business. hopefully not like the big dig
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    well see, im not voting for him but i hope he wins over patrick
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    i think our state is full of idiots and deval is gonna win. i can't believe all the deval signs i see on peoples lawns!
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    NOLA, how are you voting on the tax questions 1 and 3? I am saying no to any new tax. they are allready taxing the hell out of us, any decrease in taxes i will vote for
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    well i usually only vote on questions I know and im not really familiar with them. i will prob just vote for gov and leave the rest blank but i did vote on the decriminalization of mary jane question a year or two ago. but off a hunch I would say that I would be with you on that
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    i got a booklet in the mail that detailed the questions "yes" and "no" results. the questions in the past have been meaningless. we allready voted to roll back the taxes, and they still increased anyways
  • rammstein516rammstein516 Posts: 3,720 juggalo
    I think it's really interesting that the Obama administration would try and sneak this through while Congress is in recess for the upcoming elections. Does anybody else feel lied to? This sale will only inflame others in that region.........I fear that the US will never get out of the Middle East. Such a shame too as that was part of Obama's election platform......to get us out of the Middle East.
    Obama's election platform was to get the troops out of Iraq, and even that is tough because the US army doesn't just pack up and leave in a day. I don't feel lied to, because the truth has been told, weapons are being sold to Saudi Arabi, I'm not sure where exactly the lies are.
  • Alec29Alec29 Posts: 3,864 juggalo
    I think it's really interesting that the Obama administration would try and sneak this through while Congress is in recess for the upcoming elections. Does anybody else feel lied to? This sale will only inflame others in that region.........I fear that the US will never get out of the Middle East. Such a shame too as that was part of Obama's election platform......to get us out of the Middle East.
    Obama's election platform was to get the troops out of Iraq, and even that is tough because the US army doesn't just pack up and leave in a day. I don't feel lied to, because the truth has been told, weapons are being sold to Saudi Arabi, I'm not sure where exactly the lies are.


    Isn't Iraq in the Middle East?
    Why is the Obama administration trying to pull thiss while Congress is in recess? Seems sketchy and underhanded to me.

    I feel lied to and deceived. Why can't he just do what he said he would? Fix the economy (yes, I knew that was an impossibility when he said it), create some jobs (and not just in government, Fedzilla is big enough), do something to help Social Security ( no cost of living increase this year, even though medications have gone up an average of 8%). Seems to me all he has done is point at George W. Bush and pass an unconstitutional healthcare bill (I fully expect it to be repealed before it's mandatory date of 2014). He's not qualified to be president of the Kiwanis club much less the USA.

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