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  • ...... Posts: 31,548 master of ceremonies
    Anything that's 100% computer programmed = not music
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  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,706 spicy boy
    Implying music should be contained within a specific definition. You can have music without the ingredients of melody, rhythm, and harmony - or any of the three at all. You especially don't need structure.
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  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers

    Anything that's 100% computer programmed = not music

    And here ladies and gentlemen, we witness full blown ignorance on open display.
  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,706 spicy boy
    edited March 2014
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  • MenAreTrashMenAreTrash Posts: 27,667 spicy boy

    Dr_Slap said:

    The only people who regularly rep straight porno/goregrind and that stuff is that pscicosis dude. That stuff is pretty bad, I'll agree with you, but it's still music. Actual grindcore is still just as valid a form as music as other Core stuff though. Actual grindcore groups have some structure to the music, it's just really fast, short and to the point. Just because it might be difficult to discern it due to shitty recordings or fast, kind of sloppy playing doesn't make it any less legit. Personally, I'd rather listen to fast spurts of intense music than overdrawn breakdown filled deathcore.


    Lol that shit ain't music, plain and simple.

    It's quite literally just extremely fast jam sessions recorded. There's absolutely no structure, rhythm, or melody. You know, the 3 main ingredients that make music, music...

    Still gonna say you're wrong. There's definitely rhythmic and structural elements. They're playing in time and there's still an element of "this riff for 4 measures, then riff b for 4, then we're down". And music doesn't really need melody. There's such a thing as post-tonal and atonal music. Also, music that's completely percussive is still music, right?

  • FIRENATHANIELHACKETTFIRENATHANIELHACKETT Posts: 35,453 spicy boy

    Dr_Slap said:

    The only people who regularly rep straight porno/goregrind and that stuff is that pscicosis dude. That stuff is pretty bad, I'll agree with you, but it's still music. Actual grindcore is still just as valid a form as music as other Core stuff though. Actual grindcore groups have some structure to the music, it's just really fast, short and to the point. Just because it might be difficult to discern it due to shitty recordings or fast, kind of sloppy playing doesn't make it any less legit. Personally, I'd rather listen to fast spurts of intense music than overdrawn breakdown filled deathcore.


    Lol that shit ain't music, plain and simple.

    It's quite literally just extremely fast jam sessions recorded. There's absolutely no structure, rhythm, or melody. You know, the 3 main ingredients that make music, music...

    If you dont think grind bands have structure or rhythm then you are absolutely fucking retarded
  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Dr_Slap said:

    Dr_Slap said:

    The only people who regularly rep straight porno/goregrind and that stuff is that pscicosis dude. That stuff is pretty bad, I'll agree with you, but it's still music. Actual grindcore is still just as valid a form as music as other Core stuff though. Actual grindcore groups have some structure to the music, it's just really fast, short and to the point. Just because it might be difficult to discern it due to shitty recordings or fast, kind of sloppy playing doesn't make it any less legit. Personally, I'd rather listen to fast spurts of intense music than overdrawn breakdown filled deathcore.


    Lol that shit ain't music, plain and simple.

    It's quite literally just extremely fast jam sessions recorded. There's absolutely no structure, rhythm, or melody. You know, the 3 main ingredients that make music, music...

    Still gonna say you're wrong. There's definitely rhythmic and structural elements. They're playing in time and there's still an element of "this riff for 4 measures, then riff b for 4, then we're down". And music doesn't really need melody. There's such a thing as post-tonal and atonal music. Also, music that's completely percussive is still music, right?


    Yes, but strictly percussive music, excluding drum solos, usually use drums tuned in a way that they can create melody.

  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers

    Dr_Slap said:

    The only people who regularly rep straight porno/goregrind and that stuff is that pscicosis dude. That stuff is pretty bad, I'll agree with you, but it's still music. Actual grindcore is still just as valid a form as music as other Core stuff though. Actual grindcore groups have some structure to the music, it's just really fast, short and to the point. Just because it might be difficult to discern it due to shitty recordings or fast, kind of sloppy playing doesn't make it any less legit. Personally, I'd rather listen to fast spurts of intense music than overdrawn breakdown filled deathcore.


    Lol that shit ain't music, plain and simple.

    It's quite literally just extremely fast jam sessions recorded. There's absolutely no structure, rhythm, or melody. You know, the 3 main ingredients that make music, music...

    If you dont think grind bands have structure or rhythm then you are absolutely fucking retarded

    Oh my bad, forgot blast beats for 50 seconds straight at 350 BPM counts as structure.

  • ...... Posts: 31,548 master of ceremonies

    Anything that's 100% computer programmed = not music

    And here ladies and gentlemen, we witness full blown ignorance on open display.
    I don't really think that, but you saying grind or other extreme/fast styles isn't "music" is equally as ignorant.
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  • MenAreTrashMenAreTrash Posts: 27,667 spicy boy

    Dr_Slap said:

    Dr_Slap said:

    The only people who regularly rep straight porno/goregrind and that stuff is that pscicosis dude. That stuff is pretty bad, I'll agree with you, but it's still music. Actual grindcore is still just as valid a form as music as other Core stuff though. Actual grindcore groups have some structure to the music, it's just really fast, short and to the point. Just because it might be difficult to discern it due to shitty recordings or fast, kind of sloppy playing doesn't make it any less legit. Personally, I'd rather listen to fast spurts of intense music than overdrawn breakdown filled deathcore.


    Lol that shit ain't music, plain and simple.

    It's quite literally just extremely fast jam sessions recorded. There's absolutely no structure, rhythm, or melody. You know, the 3 main ingredients that make music, music...

    Still gonna say you're wrong. There's definitely rhythmic and structural elements. They're playing in time and there's still an element of "this riff for 4 measures, then riff b for 4, then we're down". And music doesn't really need melody. There's such a thing as post-tonal and atonal music. Also, music that's completely percussive is still music, right?


    Yes, but strictly percussive music, excluding drum solos, usually use drums tuned in a way that they can create melody.

    It can, yes, but most percussive/tribal music feeds strictly off of rhythm.
  • mrAPEmrAPE Posts: 39,476 moneytalker

    And end your life, BMTH made the most innovative record in their genre, case closed.

    i lost it at this.

    "If you don't like it well then you're just a..... CUNT!"

    So amazing ahahaha
    You tryin to be a hero fool? You wanna see badass mother fucker?! I'll show ya a badass!!!
  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers
    mrAPE said:

    And end your life, BMTH made the most innovative record in their genre, case closed.

    i lost it at this.

    "If you don't like it well then you're just a..... CUNT!"

    So amazing ahahaha

    A: That wasn't on TIAHBMISITIAHLKIAS.

    B: I love how you ain't got shit to say sonically. Simply attacking lyrics.

  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,031 master of ceremonies
    monicaa said:

    Just got a third anniversary badge, what? It's seriously been three years? lol

    Wait... da fuck? I've been here longer than you?
  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,031 master of ceremonies

    Dr_Slap said:

    The only people who regularly rep straight porno/goregrind and that stuff is that pscicosis dude. That stuff is pretty bad, I'll agree with you, but it's still music. Actual grindcore is still just as valid a form as music as other Core stuff though. Actual grindcore groups have some structure to the music, it's just really fast, short and to the point. Just because it might be difficult to discern it due to shitty recordings or fast, kind of sloppy playing doesn't make it any less legit. Personally, I'd rather listen to fast spurts of intense music than overdrawn breakdown filled deathcore.


    Lol that shit ain't music, plain and simple.

    It's quite literally just extremely fast jam sessions recorded. There's absolutely no structure, rhythm, or melody. You know, the 3 main ingredients that make music, music...

    If you dont think grind bands have structure or rhythm then you are absolutely fucking retarded

    Oh my bad, forgot blast beats for 50 seconds straight at 350 BPM counts as structure.

    It does. It isn't structure that's typically seen or widely enjoyable, but theoretically it is still STRUCTURE. You're having issues with semantics again.

    I know I used to say this to the point of mockery, but music is an art form and all art is subjective. It's completely experiential. This is why FaceFuck is wrong about completely electronic music not being music, and why you're wrong about grind.

    Somebody could fart into a microphone and it could theoretically be music if it were organized in some fashion.
  • MenAreTrashMenAreTrash Posts: 27,667 spicy boy
  • mrAPEmrAPE Posts: 39,476 moneytalker

    mrAPE said:

    And end your life, BMTH made the most innovative record in their genre, case closed.

    i lost it at this.

    "If you don't like it well then you're just a..... CUNT!"

    So amazing ahahaha

    A: That wasn't on TIAHBMISITIAHLKIAS.

    B: I love how you ain't got shit to say sonically. Simply attacking lyrics.

    Middle fingers up if you don't give a fuck
    You tryin to be a hero fool? You wanna see badass mother fucker?! I'll show ya a badass!!!
  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers

    mrAPE said:

    And end your life, BMTH made the most innovative record in their genre, case closed.

    i lost it at this.

    "If you don't like it well then you're just a..... CUNT!"

    So amazing ahahaha



    B: I love how you ain't got shit to say sonically. Simply attacking lyrics.

  • Rex_Capone420Rex_Capone420 Posts: 69,596 spicy boy
    Fuck I am not in the mood to be going to work....today sucks
  • NOCAPNOCAP Posts: 37,282 mod

    Anything that's 100% computer programmed = not music

    Damn do I read some stupid shit on this forum.


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