"sarg, look at this... this kid..........................................................................spent over $20,000 on music."
"yes sir... You wouldnt believe how many middle aged cocks I had to suck to get my awesome music library. The music helps me cope with what I had to do to acquire it"
Possession alone is not proof of theft. If it has a serial number on it, and it's been reported stolen then that's a good start. They might check your history and other stuff like that to get the proof they need, but just having your MP3 library is not proof of intellectual property theft.
I wasn't arguing whether it is right or wrong or how easy it is to get away with. All I said was you don't technically "own" illegally downloaded music.
I wasn't arguing whether it is right or wrong or how easy it is to get away with. All I said was you don't technically "own" illegally downloaded music.
I don't see your point of how you don't "own" it. You "own" it in the same way that you "own" any MP3 you paid a dollar for off of itunes. Do you not "own" music purchased though itunes either?
I wasn't arguing whether it is right or wrong or how easy it is to get away with. All I said was you don't technically "own" illegally downloaded music.
I don't see your point of how you don't "own" it. You "own" it in the same way that you "own" any MP3 you paid a dollar for off of itunes. Do you not "own" music purchased though itunes either?
Because you didn't pay for it. You downloaded it illegally. Just because its in your possession doesn't make it yours.
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I am not claiming that illegally downloading is not morally wrong. Digital piracy could result in the content owner not receiving the full potential compensation for their intellectual IP. Morally speaking it is wrong to deprive the content owner of money they should be owed for you consuming their work. That said, what I am arguing is :
1. digital piracy is not theft, but copy right infringement. 2. Once any local history of the illegal download is destroyed, the possession of the MP3 is not proof of piracy. MP3's don't have serial numbers and can not be tracked in this way. That's why the RIAA was so against them.
Because you didn't pay for it. You downloaded it illegally. Just because its in your possession doesn't make it yours.
Sure it does. It makes it just as much my possession that any purchased MP3 is. When you purchase a MP3, do you get a certificate of ownership? What is the difference between a illegally downloaded MP3 and one purchased though itunes? Nothing. There is no difference. If you bought a song, and I illegally downloaded the same song. And then we both put them on a memory stick and swapped.... You are not in possession of stolen merch. If anyone is, I am technically, however at that point in time it is impossible to prove.
Yeah apple's policies on what you buy from them are fucked. You can remove the DRM on the AAC files and convert to put on other devices but I'm pretty sure that violates the terms you bought the songs under in the iTunes store
yeah college kids who get sued by the RIAA and MPAA get fucked because most schools log student activity
I dont argue this. Note this is not in conflict with what I said... Possesion of the MP3 isnt what gets them, it's the schools logs and possession that can get kids in trouble. Possession alone doesnt give them a case.
Yeah apple's policies on what you buy from them are fucked. You can remove the DRM on the AAC files and convert to put on other devices but I'm pretty sure that violates the terms you bought the songs under in the iTunes store
Apple has for quite sometime now has been selling their MP3's DRM free. I don't know why anyone would have ever bought ACC's from apple. That's just being stupid if you do that.
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Possession alone is not proof of theft. If it has a serial number on it, and it's been reported stolen then that's a good start. They might check your history and other stuff like that to get the proof they need, but just having your MP3 library is not proof of intellectual property theft.
Because you didn't pay for it. You downloaded it illegally. Just because its in your possession doesn't make it yours.
1. digital piracy is not theft, but copy right infringement.
2. Once any local history of the illegal download is destroyed, the possession of the MP3 is not proof of piracy. MP3's don't have serial numbers and can not be tracked in this way. That's why the RIAA was so against them.
I can purchase a song in itunes and use it on any non apple device I want... I'd consider that ownership. apple can't come and take that back from me.