Getting old sucks. Didn't dig either of those really
Gone is Gone is pretty much exactly what I expected. I was hoping for more from GTO. It's a shame Eric Avery didn't record with them, because his Jane's bass lines are classics. I feel you about the getting old thing. The worst is that there isn't really much of a new guard of bands to replace them. Even the wave of bands that followed Mastodon/Isis/HoF like Kylesa and The Sword and such are all aging, too. Nothings really come along to replace or update that. Not as a movement anyways. Everything is kinda derivative now. Even the stuff I dig. The kids that used to gravitate towards metal and hardcore are being re-routed towards noisy EDM and hip hop. We may be witnessing the endtimes
whats you're definition of endtimes? I don't know how hard I'm about to disagree with that statement.
I posted my picture with Kevin on the Tame Impala reddit. I had a shit load of upvotes and was the top post for 24 hours...but the only three comments were talking about my shirt lol
Getting old sucks. Didn't dig either of those really
Gone is Gone is pretty much exactly what I expected. I was hoping for more from GTO. It's a shame Eric Avery didn't record with them, because his Jane's bass lines are classics. I feel you about the getting old thing. The worst is that there isn't really much of a new guard of bands to replace them. Even the wave of bands that followed Mastodon/Isis/HoF like Kylesa and The Sword and such are all aging, too. Nothings really come along to replace or update that. Not as a movement anyways. Everything is kinda derivative now. Even the stuff I dig. The kids that used to gravitate towards metal and hardcore are being re-routed towards noisy EDM and hip hop. We may be witnessing the endtimes
whats you're definition of endtimes? I don't know how hard I'm about to disagree with that statement.
I think rock music is dying. I think another 10-15 years down the road, people will consider rock in the same fashion as they do jazz or blues. People will play it, but I think it's commercial appeal is going the way of the dodo. It'll be something you have to be taught in school. I just don't see interest in the form from the youth. My kids' generation are all being raised on hip pop. I know my sister's kids don't listen to any rock music at all. Just look at the trend of the major festivals. Coachella, Lollapalooza, Bonnaroo...they all have to either enlist older acts to headline or rappers now. I can't think of many bands that have debuted this decade that have much of an audience. It's more niche stuff, at best. Most of the major sub-genres have been spinning their wheels for years. Atlanta doesn't even have a current rock radio station anymore. There's a classic rock station and that's it. I may be wrong, but you used to see new bands surface every couple of years and tweak the formula. I haven't heard shit in years that made much impact. What are the current big rock acts? Arctic Monkeys? I'm not even sure anymore. I think that's why people clamor for retread garbage put out by dusty old acts because people that grew up listening to rock are so starved for something new. It's part of the reason Mayhem is gone now, cuz it got to the point where they had nothing but expensive dinosaurs to headline. Like I said: I may be wrong. That's just how it seems
It sure would be nice if most of it didn't suck now. Hip Hop used to have such a cool way of self-governing. If you were wack, you got clowned on. Now it's like a fashion show. Rappers care more about their social profile than their skills and it shows in the music. It's a shame
I just wish we could get past the stage of rappers slurring their fucking words. It doesnt sound good its horrible. My brother was listening to something earlier and it was just this jack ass, sounded like he was shit-faced, slurring some incomprehensible sentence and giggling. I don't get it. I don't think I fuck with any current rap/hip-hop except for some Kendrick on occasion, but I don't like everything he put out.
Well based off of that festival list, Hip hop doesn't own the world, EDM does. As far as Bonnaroo goes, the Kalliope stage has taken over. The kalliope stage started out as a time trailer that feature DJ's through the morning and gathered a niche crowd. The kalliope stage now runs from the same small stage overnight and draws the largest crowd aside from the main stage. From midnight to 7am everybody is turning the fuck up at that tiny ass trailer. Most of the artists like Skillex, GRIZ play secret DJ seto which also add to the draw. But basically where I'm going is, in a mainstream level EDM beats hip hop today.
After saying that...it doesn't seem very logical. Basically every drug under the sun draws people to EDM so that probably has a lot to do with it in a setting like that. Everybody's eyes are saucers by midnight anyway lol
Rock/metal certainly aren't the cash cow thy once were but it won't die. There are still young rock bands coming out garnering followings. Nothing is probably the most successful young band in shoegaze right now and they're on a metal label. Deafheaven are playing everything from Pitchfork fest to hard rock festivals sponsored by energy drinks. You may be right that rock bands won't be able to reach the level of success rappers & EDM artists can now for very much longer, but there's still a large audience for it.
I just wish we could get past the stage of rappers slurring their fucking words. It doesnt sound good its horrible. My brother was listening to something earlier and it was just this jack ass, sounded like he was shit-faced, slurring some incomprehensible sentence and giggling. I don't get it. I don't think I fuck with any current rap/hip-hop except for some Kendrick on occasion, but I don't like everything he put out.
There's 2 things I can't stand about current Hip Hop:
One is these idiots that rhyme a word with itself. The other are what I call the "Checklist" rappers: Rappers that talk about their cars (check!), money (check!), weed/coke/molly/drugs/various trendy alcohols (check!), da club (check!), girls (check!), their dicks (check!). That shit is boring as fuck. And oooooooooooold. Puffy ruined everything. He made it easy for wack rappers and people just keep allowing it to keep going.
I dig these younger rappers that get into psychedelics and shit, but they're so few and far between that they get overrated a lot. Like Chance the Rapper. Dude sounds like Sid the Science Kid joined The Pharcyde. It's ok, but it's nothing groundbreaking. I think the aforementioned self-governing has been too heavily co-opted by boring nerd rappers now to have any impact. There was a time when people clowned on LL Cool J, so dude went hard and put out 'Momma Said Knock You Out' and got his respect back. Now, if someone calls you out for being soft as baby blankets, it just gets shrugged off with a "Hater!" and the bullshit just keeps going.
Sidenote, GRiZ isn't your typical EDM, if he's EDM at all. He plays sax in almost all of his tracks and features some sick guitar. Calls alot of his his music future funk lol him and Kamasi Washington got into a fucking wicked sax duel at the bonnaroo superjam.
Satan I hate to say it but your opinions on hip-hop are grandpa
I swear. Typical dusty ass old school Hip Hop head. The Hip Hop equivalent of "trve Metal fans". That's why I learned to let it go in one ear and out the other. Hip Hop sonically is better than it's ever been. I don't even like old school shit. It sounds too dated at this point.
I just wish we could get past the stage of rappers slurring their fucking words. It doesnt sound good its horrible. My brother was listening to something earlier and it was just this jack ass, sounded like he was shit-faced, slurring some incomprehensible sentence and giggling. I don't get it. I don't think I fuck with any current rap/hip-hop except for some Kendrick on occasion, but I don't like everything he put out.
That's for aesthetic and I fuck wit it. If a mf talkin bout drugs and actually sounds like he on em, it gives it a more authentic vibe.
Rock/metal certainly aren't the cash cow thy once were but it won't die. There are still young rock bands coming out garnering followings. Nothing is probably the most successful young band in shoegaze right now and they're on a metal label. Deafheaven are playing everything from Pitchfork fest to hard rock festivals sponsored by energy drinks. You may be right that rock bands won't be able to reach the level of success rappers & EDM artists can now for very much longer, but there's still a large audience for it.
Shoegaze is a 30 year old genre that's already seen it's heyday though. See my point?
People are starting to pick the 90's apart for the little quirks that they don't think anyone remembers so they can plunder them. It's nothing new to me. I don't even hear bands putting much new spin on shit anymore.
And I'm not lamenting. I see this as a natural progression. I'm actually kinda cool with it. I'd rather hear new sounds than the same shit reorganized over and over. I get excited when I hear someone doing something cool and original, regardless of genre
Yeah i understand where people are coming from when they complain about how shallow lyrics can be in a lot of popular hip hop but what ppl don't get is its lyrics isn't the whole package now. These rappers are artists, not just rappers. It's about the sound or the vibe as much as it is just what they're saying. And they care about image because aesthetic is a large part of art.
Lol listen to beats from the early to mid 00's. Listen to Fireman now and day that isn't cringe worthy. That song owned everything when I was middle school.
Satan I hate to say it but your opinions on hip-hop are grandpa
Because I value diversity and skill over some idiot mumbling over rehashed trap beats? I'm not saying it's all bad. I think it's more a matter of volume for the most part. You used to have maybe 300-500 rappers making records. Now you have thousands. It's inevitable that there's gonna be a lot of dreck. It's just annoying that some of the biggest ones are complete offal. I give a ton of shit a chance, but I get let down a lot. If that makes me grandpa, so be it. I'm 37, so...
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There's 2 things I can't stand about current Hip Hop:
One is these idiots that rhyme a word with itself. The other are what I call the "Checklist" rappers: Rappers that talk about their cars (check!), money (check!), weed/coke/molly/drugs/various trendy alcohols (check!), da club (check!), girls (check!), their dicks (check!). That shit is boring as fuck. And oooooooooooold. Puffy ruined everything. He made it easy for wack rappers and people just keep allowing it to keep going.
I dig these younger rappers that get into psychedelics and shit, but they're so few and far between that they get overrated a lot. Like Chance the Rapper. Dude sounds like Sid the Science Kid joined The Pharcyde. It's ok, but it's nothing groundbreaking. I think the aforementioned self-governing has been too heavily co-opted by boring nerd rappers now to have any impact. There was a time when people clowned on LL Cool J, so dude went hard and put out 'Momma Said Knock You Out' and got his respect back. Now, if someone calls you out for being soft as baby blankets, it just gets shrugged off with a "Hater!" and the bullshit just keeps going.
People are starting to pick the 90's apart for the little quirks that they don't think anyone remembers so they can plunder them. It's nothing new to me. I don't even hear bands putting much new spin on shit anymore.
And I'm not lamenting. I see this as a natural progression. I'm actually kinda cool with it. I'd rather hear new sounds than the same shit reorganized over and over. I get excited when I hear someone doing something cool and original, regardless of genre
Production is an entire other monster today.