The Last of Us Part 2 SPOILERS discussion

Xeno

So I'm genuinely confused as to what about the spoilers has the internet pissed off. Is it Joel dying? The first game ended with Joel (probably) robbing humanity of it's last hope for survival. Did people think him and Ellie were going to go live happily ever after and people weren't going to try and get revenge/punish him for that?

MetalCoresades

People are mad because
>Joel dies
>You play as his killer the second entire second half of the game to hunt down and kill Ellie
>That character is rumored to be male to female trans
>the game has a heavy anti-christian/pro LGBT agenda behind it, that pissed a lot of people off
>the zombies are basically non existent in the game

Thats basically it

MetalCoresades

Then there's the Naughty Dog drama in general

Workers overworked, afraid to speak their opinions because of SJW work environment, Neil Druckman - the new director - is a big time SJW and is blacklisting employees for disagreeing with him, they ran out Amy Hennig (woman who created Uncharted and Legacy of Kain) because she wasnt progressive enough, disgruntled workers leaked the game, Sony/Naughty Dog doing a shit job covering it up, Sony straight up copyright striking people's videos discussing the game and even memes

Xeno

Is the pro LGBT propaganda the fact you play as someone who is trans?

Xeno

And the fact that you play as the killer for the second half of the game was expected to me. TBH when I finished the first game I figured if they made a sequel you would spend the WHOLE game tracking down Joel and Ellie. It's the only thing that wouldn't cheapen the end of the first game, since it's the first point when you truly realize that it's Joel's decision and not the player's.

Xeno

I'm all for anti Christian sentiment tho

MetalCoresades

Xeno said:

Is the pro LGBT propaganda the fact you play as someone who is trans?

I guess the main plot is you're fighting a homophobic Christian cult. 

MetalCoresades

There's a couple things... play as trans person, homophobe cult, lesbian sex scenes with Ellie and her gf. So ye

Xeno

Sounds good to me. I thought you have been repeatedly outspoken here about not liking the first game in the first place?

MetalCoresades

This is all from shit I've ready btw. I havent seen the leaked scened myself. 

Xeno

Ellie being gay was referenced frequently through the first game and it's expansion

MetalCoresades

Xeno said:

Sounds good to me. I thought you have been repeatedly outspoken here about not liking the first game in the first place?

I dont. And Im not going to be playing this one. But I like to stay up to date on gaming trends and all that. 

Xeno

Doesn't make much sense to me that a cult would care about sexuality during the apocalypse but killing em will be fun

MetalCoresades

Xeno said:

Doesn't make much sense to me that a cult would care about sexuality during the apocalypse but killing em will be fun

Thats kinda the complaint lol. 

MarcTheFallen

You honestly think Abbys revenge story is good? cause that shit is plain stupid and its worse when they don't even hint or set it up in anyway. You honestly expect us to care about some random dudes death and his daughters/son's quest for revenge against the characters we love? come one now.  

Xeno

That's the thing. The first game's ending was supposed to challenge your blind acceptance of a protagonist's actions. The scientist he murders is an innocent dude trying to save the world. I understood Joel's actions but wouldn't have made them, and that's what made the ending so great. It's one thing to personally agree with what Joel did and another to ignore that this is what the obvious results would be and expect it to go differently.

MetalCoresades

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FIRENATHANIELHACKETT

MetalCoresades said:

People are mad because 
>the game has a heavy anti-christian

I mean those people can suck multiple dicks from the back. Who cares lmao

FIRENATHANIELHACKETT

MC is right about one thing. Naughty Dogs churn is insaaaaane. 14 of the 20 major devs that worked on Uncharted 4 no longer work for the company. Big yikes. 

Xeno

MetalCoresades said:

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Literally the opposite of what I said but ok

Edit instead of continuing in another post: you're trying to reduct what I said into a meme but it's not even accurate. Based on how LOU1 ended, it is EXACTLY what someone should expect. If your post is about the end of LOU1, then you're arguing that in the wrong place.

Xeno

FIREJOHNELWAY said:

MC is right about one thing. Naughty Dogs churn is insaaaaane. 14 of the 20 major devs that worked on Uncharted 4 no longer work for the company. Big yikes. 

Yeah I hadn't heard about that, that's fuxked