drinkwine732Posts: 20,418destroyer of motherfuckers
Humans are a virus to this planet, slowly killing it.
That makes it sound as if this planet is significant in any way.
well its the reason were alive and the only planet we've found capable of supporting life as we know it so i'd say its pretty significant.
Mankind is not significant to the universe at all. I'm talking none. Earth is not special. Humans are not special. Nothing is special. It all exists elsewhere.
Humans are a virus to this planet, slowly killing it.
That makes it sound as if this planet is significant in any way.
well its the reason were alive and the only planet we've found capable of supporting life as we know it so i'd say its pretty significant.
Mankind is not significant to the universe at all. I'm talking none. Earth is not special. Humans are not special. Nothing is special. It all exists elsewhere.
Humans are a virus to this planet, slowly killing it.
That makes it sound as if this planet is significant in any way.
well its the reason were alive and the only planet we've found capable of supporting life as we know it so i'd say its pretty significant.
Mankind is not significant to the universe at all. I'm talking none. Earth is not special. Humans are not special. Nothing is special. It all exists elsewhere.
List me the other planets supporting life if Earth is not special
Humans are a virus to this planet, slowly killing it.
That makes it sound as if this planet is significant in any way.
well its the reason were alive and the only planet we've found capable of supporting life as we know it so i'd say its pretty significant.
Mankind is not significant to the universe at all. I'm talking none. Earth is not special. Humans are not special. Nothing is special. It all exists elsewhere.
List me the other planets supporting life if Earth is not special
Mankind is not significant to the universe at all. I'm talking none. Earth is not special. Humans are not special. Nothing is special. It all exists elsewhere.
"Perhaps the saddest thing, is that if we fail altogether, and humans go extinct, gaia will lose as much, if not more, than we do. Because not only will wildlife and natural ecosystems vanish along with us, but in human civilization the planet has a precious resource. We're not just a disease among this planet; we have through our intelligence and communication become the planetary equivalent of a nervous system.
So we shouldn't necessarily feel guilty. In the planet's history there have been other organisms, that in their early development, wreaked havoc, and were much more harmful to earth's ecosystems than anything we're doing is, and yet now, they're vital components of gaia. The photosynthesizers that first released oxygen must have been far worse pollutants than we are, for when they first released it, oxygen was a deadly as sarin would be released now. Yet over the years life has adapted to them, made use of them, and now they are the trees that give off the gas that empowers animal life.
It's taken gaia at least three and a half billion years to produce an intelligent social animal species. The photosynthesizers had a long time to wait before they became the tree, so we have to be patient while we slowly evolve to become an integral part of what could be an intelligent planet. But what a future for us, and for gaia, that would be."
I'm certain I've brought it up with you all before.
The Drake equation states that:
where:
N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible;
and
R* = the average rate of star formation per year in our galaxy fp = the fraction of those stars that have planets ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets fℓ = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point fi = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life fc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space.
Keep in mind, that is our galaxy. You would then multiply N by the number of galaxies in the universe, which is a very staggering number.
It is not a possibility that Earth is the only life harboring planet in the universe, our galaxy, and I'm (almost) willing to go as far as our solar system. I can't name any other planets that harbor life, obviously, but that's because I'd be trying to fit the entire universe into the realm of human knowledge, which is a ridiculous request.
No video could convince me otherwise. Earth is only special because it is our home, but in the greater picture, it's a nonentity.
It is not a possibility that Earth is the only life harboring planet in the universe, our galaxy, and I'm (almost) willing to go as far as our solar system. I can't name any other planets that harbor life, obviously, but that's because I'd be trying to fit the entire universe into the realm of human knowledge, which is a ridiculous request.
No video could convince me otherwise. Earth is only special because it is our home, but in the greater picture, it's a nonentity.
Yes, I'm very aware of the Drake equation. I'm not suggesting earth is the only planet harboring life. I am suggesting any planet harboring life is "special." Until humans discover other planets with life, which I'm really hoping happens in my lifetime, the earth will be seen as "special." When that happens, people will realize they're insignificant in the grander scheme of the universe. I will not be one of those people.
What the fuck am I saying? We are insignificant. Intelligent life just seems to be rare from our current, and very limited, perspective. I think we have the capability to move past destruction and live in harmony with the planet (not with ourselves, but with the planet). That's special to me.
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So we shouldn't necessarily feel guilty. In the planet's history there have been other organisms, that in their early development, wreaked havoc, and were much more harmful to earth's ecosystems than anything we're doing is, and yet now, they're vital components of gaia. The photosynthesizers that first released oxygen must have been far worse pollutants than we are, for when they first released it, oxygen was a deadly as sarin would be released now. Yet over the years life has adapted to them, made use of them, and now they are the trees that give off the gas that empowers animal life.
It's taken gaia at least three and a half billion years to produce an intelligent social animal species. The photosynthesizers had a long time to wait before they became the tree, so we have to be patient while we slowly evolve to become an integral part of what could be an intelligent planet. But what a future for us, and for gaia, that would be."
I'm certain I've brought it up with you all before.
The Drake equation states that:
where:
N = the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible;
and
R* = the average rate of star formation per year in our galaxy
fp = the fraction of those stars that have planets
ne = the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fℓ = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi = the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc = the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L = the length of time for which such civilizations release detectable signals into space.
Keep in mind, that is our galaxy. You would then multiply N by the number of galaxies in the universe, which is a very staggering number.
It is not a possibility that Earth is the only life harboring planet in the universe, our galaxy, and I'm (almost) willing to go as far as our solar system. I can't name any other planets that harbor life, obviously, but that's because I'd be trying to fit the entire universe into the realm of human knowledge, which is a ridiculous request.
No video could convince me otherwise. Earth is only special because it is our home, but in the greater picture, it's a nonentity.