No, they're not, and any player in any sport will tell you they'd rather have a ring(s) than their name in the personal record books, but you're saying no, fuck that, rings determines the better player. Which is why you're saying Eli is better than Peyton. And Im'ma tell you, if I'm building a team, and my only 2 choices for my QB are Peyton and Eli, I'm taking Peyton.
4th quarter down by 4 1:30 left I already said it..I want Eli over ANY qb in the league. Give him time. We ain't done yet..Same as Kapernick or however you spell it and RG3..those 2 dudes have the skills to be great BUT their style of play will send them to early retirement with injuries
Coughlin's already a HOFer in my opinion. He's played far more of a role in their SB success than Eli has. Both times.
You ask Mike Francesa and will tell you they BOTH are already first Ballot HOF'ers. I know because I asked him. I have nothing to do in the truck except bother him and in the mornings I talk to Boomer alot. I always call
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Cool stat that I just found though. Eli Manning's tied for 11th in 4th Quarter comebacks since 1960. He'd have to have a torrid pace to break Peyton's record, but still. He's had more than you'd think.
Either way, still not who I'd want in this league. To me, Eli has pretty much been the epitome of "It's the hall of fame, not the hall of pretty good."
Great players play..go tell the dude from Boston with a broken leg about injuries. He played. Curt Schilling with the bloody sock..he played..even Emmit Smith with a dislocated shoulder AGAINST US..he played
Who cares about the fucking blood it was probably a scratch.
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Former NFL star Chad Johnson was sentenced Monday to 30 days in jail for a probation violation in a domestic violence case by a judge who angrily rejected a no-jail plea deal after Johnson playfully slapped his attorney on the backside in court.
Johnson, known as Chad Ochocinco for his jersey number in Spanish during his playing days, had reached a deal with prosecutors calling for community service and counseling instead of jail. Broward County Circuit Judge Kathleen McHugh said she would tack on an additional three months' probation because Johnson had failed to meet with his probation officer during three previous months.
It was all set until Johnson, when asked by McHugh if he was satisfied with his lawyer Adam Swickle, gave the attorney a light swat on the rear -- as football players routinely do to each other on the field. The courtroom erupted in laughter and at that McHugh said she wouldn't accept the deal.
"I don't know that you're taking this whole thing seriously. I just saw you slap your attorney on the backside. Is there something funny about this?" McHugh said, slapping the plea deal document down on her desk. "The whole courtroom was laughing. I'm not going to accept these plea negotiations. This isn't a joke."
Johnson, 35, tried to apologize and insisted he meant no disrespect. Johnson was on probation after pleading no contest to head-butting his then-wife, TV reality star Evelyn Lozada, during an altercation last August. She quickly filed for divorce after barely a month of marriage and Johnson, a six-time Pro Bowl wide receiver, was immediately released by the Miami Dolphins. He didn't play at all last season.
"This is your courtroom. I have no intent to make this a joke. It's not funny," Johnson told the judge. "My life is in a shambles right now and I try my best to laugh and keep a smile on my face."
But McHugh, who could have given Johnson up to a year in jail, was not moved.
"It's not the first time he's behaved that way in my courtroom," she said.
Johnson then was handcuffed and hauled away to jail. Swickle declined comment on whether he would seek a reduced sentence.
Johnson has been undergoing therapy aimed at helping people involved in domestic violence but has not signed with another NFL team. He said in court Monday he hoped that would change in the upcoming football season, but now faces another setback.
"He has suffered. He has lost everything," Swickle told the judge.
Johnson, whose best playing days were with the Cincinnati Bengals, caught 766 passes for more than 11,000 yards and 67 touchdowns during his career. He also played for the New England Patriots.
Lozada stars on VH-1's "Basketball Wives" TV show. She was previously engaged to former NBA star Antoine Walker, who played for the Miami Heat, Boston Celtics and other teams and was a star on the University of Kentucky's 1996 national championship team.
You tryin to be a hero fool? You wanna see badass mother fucker?! I'll show ya a badass!!!
1 glad he's going to jail what an idiot 2 I fucking hate judges and their giant egos.. Heaven forbid they don't like something in there courtroom so there gonna send people to jail.. I think judges should spend a month in jail so they know what it feels like to just hand it out like candy when someone " disrespects" them.. What they are these special ass people? A fucking hate them.. Keep in mind this has nothing to do with judges sentencing people based on their crimes but more on judges who set examples based on people's court room behavior
Nola =D> i think that is the biggest crock of shit ever. I was watching this thing on youtube and this bitch was smirking as the judge read how much she had to pay in damages and originally he said 5000 but then doubled it because he saw her smiling. Great justice system we have :-@
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Either way, still not who I'd want in this league. To me, Eli has pretty much been the epitome of "It's the hall of fame, not the hall of pretty good."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1281624-the-top-10-clutch-quarterbacks-of-all-time/page/7
Johnson, known as Chad Ochocinco for his jersey number in Spanish during his playing days, had reached a deal with prosecutors calling for community service and counseling instead of jail. Broward County Circuit Judge Kathleen McHugh said she would tack on an additional three months' probation because Johnson had failed to meet with his probation officer during three previous months.
It was all set until Johnson, when asked by McHugh if he was satisfied with his lawyer Adam Swickle, gave the attorney a light swat on the rear -- as football players routinely do to each other on the field. The courtroom erupted in laughter and at that McHugh said she wouldn't accept the deal.
"I don't know that you're taking this whole thing seriously. I just saw you slap your attorney on the backside. Is there something funny about this?" McHugh said, slapping the plea deal document down on her desk. "The whole courtroom was laughing. I'm not going to accept these plea negotiations. This isn't a joke."
Johnson, 35, tried to apologize and insisted he meant no disrespect. Johnson was on probation after pleading no contest to head-butting his then-wife, TV reality star Evelyn Lozada, during an altercation last August. She quickly filed for divorce after barely a month of marriage and Johnson, a six-time Pro Bowl wide receiver, was immediately released by the Miami Dolphins. He didn't play at all last season.
"This is your courtroom. I have no intent to make this a joke. It's not funny," Johnson told the judge. "My life is in a shambles right now and I try my best to laugh and keep a smile on my face."
But McHugh, who could have given Johnson up to a year in jail, was not moved.
"It's not the first time he's behaved that way in my courtroom," she said.
Johnson then was handcuffed and hauled away to jail. Swickle declined comment on whether he would seek a reduced sentence.
Johnson has been undergoing therapy aimed at helping people involved in domestic violence but has not signed with another NFL team. He said in court Monday he hoped that would change in the upcoming football season, but now faces another setback.
"He has suffered. He has lost everything," Swickle told the judge.
Johnson, whose best playing days were with the Cincinnati Bengals, caught 766 passes for more than 11,000 yards and 67 touchdowns during his career. He also played for the New England Patriots.
Lozada stars on VH-1's "Basketball Wives" TV show. She was previously engaged to former NBA star Antoine Walker, who played for the Miami Heat, Boston Celtics and other teams and was a star on the University of Kentucky's 1996 national championship team.
1 glad he's going to jail what an idiot
2 I fucking hate judges and their giant egos.. Heaven forbid they don't like something in there courtroom so there gonna send people to jail.. I think judges should spend a month in jail so they know what it feels like to just hand it out like candy when someone " disrespects" them.. What they are these special ass people? A fucking hate them.. Keep in mind this has nothing to do with judges sentencing people based on their crimes but more on judges who set examples based on people's court room behavior