Everyone does things others disagree with. MC isnt hurting anyone, he doesnt come up in here with fucking religious meldowns trying to push his beliefs. I just dont get why the mob attacks him for making one statement. He never said he hated anyone or anything. He also stated he is trying to be more open minded. MC is a cool guy. I donnot have anything against him for what he believes. I may not agree, but I'm not going to sit here and call him fucking racist and shit, thats just wrong. He isnt hurting anyone, just like fucking for money doesnt hurt anyone. I just see alot of hypocritical statements. Leave MC alaone. I dont agree with people smoking cigareettes, is that the same as racism too?
But those things are a choice. Being homosexual isn't a choice, as race is.
I don't hate MC at all. In fact I am loving this discussion with him.
He still never said he hated, disliked, or disrespected gays. So he is not hating anything or anyone, therefor it is not like racism.
I get what she means here though. He said he thinks homosexuality is wrong and is a sin, which is the same as saying being black is wrong and is a sin. I may not like Ellie, but she does have a very valid point here, and I'm not gonna cease to agree with it because of personal biases.
just to play devil's advocate here... i do know some people, specifially one dude who tells people he's gay to get into close relationships with girls, molests/gropes them and then changes his story to he's Bi... that i dont tolerate at all.
that's a bit different here... not every gay person does that.
i know lol...
im with george on this one its not like MC cant be near a gay person, he just perfers not to be involved in any homosexual behavior, but he has nothing againt gay people amirite MC?
pretty much
just to play devil's advocate here... i do know some people, specifially one dude who tells people he's gay to get into close relationships with girls, molests/gropes them and then changes his story to he's Bi... that i dont tolerate at all.
Then he's not actually gay, lol. I don't tolerate that at all, either.
i honestly think he may be bisexual... but to tell girls that he's gay, and then molest them just isnt right.
Either he is very confused on his sexuality, or he is just trying to get laid. And I would say it's the latter, lol.
Again, being gay or bi is being attracted to the same sex or both sexes. Acting like you're gay or bi doesn't not mean he's actually attracted to guys, y'know?
He still never said he hated, disliked, or disrespected gays. So he is not hating anything or anyone, therefor it is not like racism.
But he said it is a "mistake". I would think some homosexuals would find that a little offensive to say that what they're doing is wrong, though.
He just said that if he found out his friend was gay he would be openminded about it and also stated that he is working on changing some of his beliefs. :-|
He just said that if he found out his friend was gay he would be openminded about it and also stated that he is working on changing some of his beliefs. :-|
Then he should continue to keep changing his beliefs, lol. I still don't think it's right to think being homosexual is wrong even if you are being nice to them. Again, what Erik said, it's just like telling a black person you don't agree with the color of their skin, but you'll be nice to them. I don't think black people would take very kindly to that, and neither would homosexuals.
I understand what Nola means though. You're talking about how being gay is a sin, and that you're not a sinner, but you're making up rules to fit your lifestyle. Technically, you're a filthy sinner for simply listening to Metal and eating shrimp. I don't care which sin is "worse", you're still technically sinning.
i've said i'm a sinner... O_O
Then how can you say being gay is wrong and is a sin, and to "Hate the sins." if you're a sinner yourself? Practice what you preach.
i am dude... you missed the whole point of that... the reason why we "love the sinner" is cuz EVERYONE, included ourselves are sinners. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. but we shouldnt condone wrong doings, thus "hate the sin"... hate what we do that is wrong, but dont hate the person that does the wrong cuz EVERYONE does wrongs... including me. i dont have the right to judge, cuz i myself do things wrong.
But by that logic, you should fix your mistakes, which means you should cease listening to Metal, because you're sinning on a daily basis by doing so.
MC was prolly raised a certain way his entire life. I think its very commndable he can talk about things without getting butthhurt. I just think people are blowing what he said wayyy out of proportion.
He still never said he hated, disliked, or disrespected gays. So he is not hating anything or anyone, therefor it is not like racism.
But he said it is a "mistake". I would think some homosexuals would find that a little offensive to say that what they're doing is wrong, though.
He just said that if he found out his friend was gay he would be openminded about it and also stated that he is working on changing some of his beliefs. :-|
this. it's not like MC is saying "I FUCKING HATE GAYS AND THEY DESERVE TO DIE" he's saying "I don't agree with what they do, but I won't hate them for doing it"
tru but he is saying that its a sin which it is not...
I understand what Nola means though. You're talking about how being gay is a sin, and that you're not a sinner, but you're making up rules to fit your lifestyle. Technically, you're a filthy sinner for simply listening to Metal and eating shrimp. I don't care which sin is "worse", you're still technically sinning.
i've said i'm a sinner... O_O
Then how can you say being gay is wrong and is a sin, and to "Hate the sins." if you're a sinner yourself? Practice what you preach.
i am dude... you missed the whole point of that... the reason why we "love the sinner" is cuz EVERYONE, included ourselves are sinners. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. but we shouldnt condone wrong doings, thus "hate the sin"... hate what we do that is wrong, but dont hate the person that does the wrong cuz EVERYONE does wrongs... including me. i dont have the right to judge, cuz i myself do things wrong.
But by that logic, you should fix your mistakes, which means you should cease listening to Metal, because you're sinning on a daily basis by doing so.
when it comes to moral actions i do try and fix it...
my sect doesnt see secular music as sin though... so therefore, ima be a metalhead and be proud B-)
MC was prolly raised a certain way his entire life. I think its very commndable he can talk about things without getting butthhurt. I just think people are blowing what he said wayyy out of proportion.
my mom is Chrisitian, but she's also very non judgemental. She's taught me to be less judgemental and hatefull, especially with gays. one of her best friends could be gay, he isnt open about it, so we dont know for sure or not, but she still cares about him regardless.
I understand what Nola means though. You're talking about how being gay is a sin, and that you're not a sinner, but you're making up rules to fit your lifestyle. Technically, you're a filthy sinner for simply listening to Metal and eating shrimp. I don't care which sin is "worse", you're still technically sinning.
i've said i'm a sinner... O_O
Then how can you say being gay is wrong and is a sin, and to "Hate the sins." if you're a sinner yourself? Practice what you preach.
i am dude... you missed the whole point of that... the reason why we "love the sinner" is cuz EVERYONE, included ourselves are sinners. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. but we shouldnt condone wrong doings, thus "hate the sin"... hate what we do that is wrong, but dont hate the person that does the wrong cuz EVERYONE does wrongs... including me. i dont have the right to judge, cuz i myself do things wrong.
But by that logic, you should fix your mistakes, which means you should cease listening to Metal, because you're sinning on a daily basis by doing so.
when it comes to moral actions i do try and fix it...
my sect doesnt see secular music as sin though... so therefore, ima be a metalhead and be proud B-)
Yes, but are you NOT supposed to listen to anything that is blasphemous to your religion? Is that not a major sin?
I understand what Nola means though. You're talking about how being gay is a sin, and that you're not a sinner, but you're making up rules to fit your lifestyle. Technically, you're a filthy sinner for simply listening to Metal and eating shrimp. I don't care which sin is "worse", you're still technically sinning.
i've said i'm a sinner... O_O
Then how can you say being gay is wrong and is a sin, and to "Hate the sins." if you're a sinner yourself? Practice what you preach.
i am dude... you missed the whole point of that... the reason why we "love the sinner" is cuz EVERYONE, included ourselves are sinners. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. but we shouldnt condone wrong doings, thus "hate the sin"... hate what we do that is wrong, but dont hate the person that does the wrong cuz EVERYONE does wrongs... including me. i dont have the right to judge, cuz i myself do things wrong.
But by that logic, you should fix your mistakes, which means you should cease listening to Metal, because you're sinning on a daily basis by doing so.
when it comes to moral actions i do try and fix it...
my sect doesnt see secular music as sin though... so therefore, ima be a metalhead and be proud B-)
Yes, but are you NOT supposed to listen to anything that is blasphemous to your religion? Is that not a major sin?
its not like i, myself, am screaming blasphemies and worshiping Satan
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my sect doesnt see secular music as sin though... so therefore, ima be a metalhead and be proud B-)
my dad's an agnostic, so i get his side too.