but there is a difference, nola... my parents are catholic but they dont go to church or confession or anything but theyre still catholic because thats how they were raised
like i said its a long convo but your parents arent really catholics then...
Everyone does things others disagree with. MC isnt hurting anyone, he doesnt come up in here with fucking religious meldowns trying to push his beliefs. I just dont get why the mob attacks him for making one statement. He never said he hated anyone or anything. He also stated he is trying to be more open minded. MC is a cool guy. I donnot have anything against him for what he believes. I may not agree, but I'm not going to sit here and call him fucking racist and shit, thats just wrong. He isnt hurting anyone, just like fucking for money doesnt hurt anyone. I just see alot of hypocritical statements. Leave MC alaone. I dont agree with people smoking cigareettes, is that the same as racism too?
Everyone does things others disagree with. MC isnt hurting anyone, he doesnt come up in here with fucking religious meldowns trying to push his beliefs. I just dont get why the mob attacks him for making one statement. He never said he hated anyone or anything. He also stated he is trying to be more open minded. MC is a cool guy. I donnot have anything against him for what he believes. I may not agree, but I'm not going to sit here and call him fucking racist and shit, thats just wrong. He isnt hurting anyone, just like fucking for money doesnt hurt anyone. I just see alot of hypocritical statements. Leave MC alaone. I dont agree with people smoking cigareettes, is that the same as racism too?
But those things are a choice. Being homosexual isn't a choice, as race is.
I don't hate MC at all. In fact I am loving this discussion with him.
I'm not being harsh, I fucking hate religion. Period. That's all there is to it. He can be Christian, I don't personally hate him for it, but I thoroughly hate his religion, and I have no problem admitting that.
Yeah Erik I understand, it was more a swipe at George's statement, I can totally understand your frustration with the religion issue, like I said not bashing here just wondering why George felt the need to say that during an actual discussion.
say what? everything I mentioned makes sense to me. I dont agree with people jumping all over MC cause he has different beliefs.
I understand what Nola means though. You're talking about how being gay is a sin, and that you're not a sinner, but you're making up rules to fit your lifestyle. Technically, you're a filthy sinner for simply listening to Metal and eating shrimp. I don't care which sin is "worse", you're still technically sinning.
there are some beliefs that are built from enviroment or what youre taught MC is simply saying thats how he was raised, but he isnt as harsh as how it actually is supposed to be and thats where his own beliefs come in as people mature, their beliefs can stray from the black and white beliefs of a certain religion
there are some beliefs that are built from enviroment or what youre taught MC is simply saying thats how he was raised, but he isnt as harsh as how it actually is supposed to be and thats where his own beliefs come in as people mature, their beliefs can stray from the black and white beliefs of a certain religion
in simpler terms people un learn the bullshit they were taught as they get smarter lol
Everyone does things others disagree with. MC isnt hurting anyone, he doesnt come up in here with fucking religious meldowns trying to push his beliefs. I just dont get why the mob attacks him for making one statement. He never said he hated anyone or anything. He also stated he is trying to be more open minded. MC is a cool guy. I donnot have anything against him for what he believes. I may not agree, but I'm not going to sit here and call him fucking racist and shit, thats just wrong. He isnt hurting anyone, just like fucking for money doesnt hurt anyone. I just see alot of hypocritical statements. Leave MC alaone. I dont agree with people smoking cigareettes, is that the same as racism too?
But those things are a choice. Being homosexual isn't a choice, as race is.
I don't hate MC at all. In fact I am loving this discussion with him.
just to play devil's advocate here... i do know some people, specifially one dude who tells people he's gay to get into close relationships with girls, molests/gropes them and then changes his story to he's Bi... that i dont tolerate at all.
but there is a difference, nola... my parents are catholic but they dont go to church or confession or anything but theyre still catholic because thats how they were raised
like i said its a long convo but your parents arent really catholics then...
noy gonna get into it tho cuz long convo
but they are...they were baptised and went through all the sacraments they were supposed to you cant say they arent catholic they believe in god and everything that comes along with that
Everyone does things others disagree with. MC isnt hurting anyone, he doesnt come up in here with fucking religious meldowns trying to push his beliefs. I just dont get why the mob attacks him for making one statement. He never said he hated anyone or anything. He also stated he is trying to be more open minded. MC is a cool guy. I donnot have anything against him for what he believes. I may not agree, but I'm not going to sit here and call him fucking racist and shit, thats just wrong. He isnt hurting anyone, just like fucking for money doesnt hurt anyone. I just see alot of hypocritical statements. Leave MC alaone. I dont agree with people smoking cigareettes, is that the same as racism too?
But those things are a choice. Being homosexual isn't a choice, as race is.
I don't hate MC at all. In fact I am loving this discussion with him.
He still never said he hated, disliked, or disrespected gays. So he is not hating anything or anyone, therefor it is not like racism.
just to play devil's advocate here... i do know some people, specifially one dude who tells people he's gay to get into close relationships with girls, molests/gropes them and then changes his story to he's Bi... that i dont tolerate at all.
Then he's not actually gay, lol. I don't tolerate that at all, either.
I understand what Nola means though. You're talking about how being gay is a sin, and that you're not a sinner, but you're making up rules to fit your lifestyle. Technically, you're a filthy sinner for simply listening to Metal and eating shrimp. I don't care which sin is "worse", you're still technically sinning.
i've said i'm a sinner... O_O
Then how can you say being gay is wrong and is a sin, and to "Hate the sins." if you're a sinner yourself? Practice what you preach.
just to play devil's advocate here... i do know some people, specifially one dude who tells people he's gay to get into close relationships with girls, molests/gropes them and then changes his story to he's Bi... that i dont tolerate at all.
Then he's not actually gay, lol. I don't tolerate that at all, either.
i honestly think he may be bisexual... but to tell girls that he's gay, and then molest them just isnt right.
im with george on this one its not like MC cant be near a gay person, he just perfers not to be involved in any homosexual behavior, but he has nothing againt gay people amirite MC?
just to play devil's advocate here... i do know some people, specifially one dude who tells people he's gay to get into close relationships with girls, molests/gropes them and then changes his story to he's Bi... that i dont tolerate at all.
Then he's not actually gay, lol. I don't tolerate that at all, either.
i honestly think he may be bisexual... but to tell girls that he's gay, and then molest them just isnt right.
Either he is very confused on his sexuality, or he is just trying to get laid. And I would say it's the latter, lol.
Again, being gay or bi is being attracted to the same sex or both sexes. Acting like you're gay or bi doesn't not mean he's actually attracted to guys, y'know?
I understand what Nola means though. You're talking about how being gay is a sin, and that you're not a sinner, but you're making up rules to fit your lifestyle. Technically, you're a filthy sinner for simply listening to Metal and eating shrimp. I don't care which sin is "worse", you're still technically sinning.
i've said i'm a sinner... O_O
Then how can you say being gay is wrong and is a sin, and to "Hate the sins." if you're a sinner yourself? Practice what you preach.
i am dude... you missed the whole point of that... the reason why we "love the sinner" is cuz EVERYONE, included ourselves are sinners. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES. but we shouldnt condone wrong doings, thus "hate the sin"... hate what we do that is wrong, but dont hate the person that does the wrong cuz EVERYONE does wrongs... including me. i dont have the right to judge, cuz i myself do things wrong.
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noy gonna get into it tho cuz long convo
I don't hate MC at all. In fact I am loving this discussion with him.
MC is simply saying thats how he was raised, but he isnt as harsh as how it actually is supposed to be and thats where his own beliefs come in
as people mature, their beliefs can stray from the black and white beliefs of a certain religion
you cant say they arent catholic
they believe in god and everything that comes along with that
its not like MC cant be near a gay person, he just perfers not to be involved in any homosexual behavior, but he has nothing againt gay people
amirite MC?
Again, being gay or bi is being attracted to the same sex or both sexes. Acting like you're gay or bi doesn't not mean he's actually attracted to guys, y'know?
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