Everyone should agree on that. I don't really believe there should be some kind of challenge like NFL but I do believe in a case like this where no runs were scored nothing happened after that play they should be able to go back and change the safe call to an out and award the pitcher his perfect game that he got fairly. They change errors to base hits and reverse hits to errors they should be able to do something about a bad call by an ump such as this one.
You tryin to be a hero fool? You wanna see badass mother fucker?! I'll show ya a badass!!!
"DETROIT -- Major League Baseball is still deciding whether to review the umpire's blown call that cost Armando Galarraga a perfect game.
Commissioner Bud Selig has the power to reverse umpire Jim Joyce's missed call that came with two outs in the ninth inning Wednesday night in Detroit. Joyce ruled Cleveland's Jason Donald safe, then admitted he got it wrong.
Selig would likely consult with his top advisers before making such a ruling. St. Louis Cardinals manager Tony La Russa says the call should be overturned.
Joyce was scheduled to be back at work Thursday afternoon, umpiring at home plate in the game between the Tigers and Indians.
In 1991, a panel headed by then-commissioner Fay Vincent took a look at the record book and decided to throw out 50 no-hitters for various reasons.
Armando Galarraga bitterly sipped a beer minutes after he almost pitched a perfect game, lashing out at first base umpire Jim Joyce for blowing a call on what would have been the final out to negate his place in baseball history.
An apology and hug changed Galarraga's attitude.
Joyce, in tears, asked for a chance to apologize after the Detroit Tigers beat the Cleveland Indians 3-0 Wednesday night.
"You don't see an umpire after the game come out and say, 'Hey, let me tell you I'm sorry,'" Galarraga said "He felt really bad. He didn't even shower."
The perfect game that wasn't.
MLB declined comment on Joyce's call. As it stands, baseball replays can only be used for questionable home runs. There's no appealing a judgment call, either by replay or protest.
Social networking sites, meanwhile, were buzzing about it.
Galarraga, who was barely known outside of Detroit a day ago, and Joyce, whose career had flourished in relative anonymity, quickly became trending topics on Twitter. At least one anti-Joyce Facebook page was created shortly after the game ended and firejimjoyce.com was launched.
"I worked with Don Denkinger, and I know what he went through, but I've never had a moment like this," Joyce said.
Denkinger didn't have to deal with the wrath of fans on Twitter or Facebook. Denkinger helped tilt the 1985 World Series by blowing a call as a first base umpire, and that followed him throughout his career
Joyce has been calling balls and strikes and deciding if runners are out or safe as a full-time major league umpire since 1989. He has been respected enough to be on the field for two World Series, 11 other playoff series and a pair of All-Star games.
A split-second decision he made will probably haunt him for the rest of his career.
Joyce emphatically signaled safe when Cleveland's Jason Donald clearly didn't beat a throw to first base for what would've been the last out in Armando Galarraga's perfect game for the Detroit Tigers, setting off a chorus of groans and boos that echoed in Comerica Park.
The instantly infamous play also will add to the argument that Major League Baseball needs to expand its use of replays.
Chuck Klonke, the official scorer Wednesday night with nearly three decades of experience, said he would not change the disputed play to an error from a hit to give Galarraga a no-hitter.
"I looked at the replay right after it happened, and Miguel Cabrera made a good throw and Galarraga didn't miss the bag so you couldn't do anything but call it a hit," Klonke said Thursday morning. "I watched the replay from the center-field camera, which some people thought showed Galarraga might've bobbled the ball, and I didn't see it that way at all. I have 24 hours to change a call, but I wouldn't consider it.
"End of story."
Not quite.
The story has transcended sports, becoming a topic on NBC's "Today" show Thursday morning and among parents dropping off their kids at the bus stop.
It's rare for an umpire to acknowledge a mistake in one of the few sports that relies heavily on the human eye, but Joyce did to reporters and later to Galarraga.
"It was the biggest call of my career, and I kicked the (stuff) out of it," Joyce said, looking and sounding distraught as he paced in the umpires' locker room. "I just cost that kid a perfect game."
Leyland was livid during the game when he charged out of the dugout to argue the call and got in another heated discussion with Joyce after the final out.
Later, though, Leyland tried to give Joyce a break.
"The players are human, the umpires are human, the managers are human," Leyland said.
Galarraga tried to calm his nerves with a beer after the game after almost getting to celebrate the first perfect game in franchise history.
He was vying for the third perfect game in the majors this year, including Roy Halladay's gem last Saturday night. He seemed to do his job for the 27th out along with first baseman Miguel Cabrera on a play teams work on often in spring training.
Donald hit a grounder in the hole between first and second, Cabrera fielded it and threw to first, where Galarraga caught the ball at least a step ahead of Donald, replays showed.
"I feel sad," Galarraga said.
Cabrera said he didn't want to talk about it and Donald answered questions from reporters after a long soak in the tub.
"I didn't know if I beat the throw or not," Donald said. "But given the circumstances, I thought for sure I'd be called out."
The Tigers huddled around one of the two big-screen televisions in their clubhouse, standing stoically and silently as the play was shown over and over.
"I know I played in a perfect game," Detroit shortstop Ramon Santiago said. "In my mind, on June 2, Armando Galarraga threw a no-hitter. I'm going to get a ball signed by him." "
people are overreacting.... if they were to fire every fucking ump that screws up a call in baseball. They would go through them all in less than 3 days.
I will be happy if Selig changes the call; and makes it **OFFICIALLY** a perfect game.... as he should.
but i still believe these human errors are what makes baseball great
Three in one season, four if you count Mark Buehrle's last year...and considering there were 16 in the prior hundred years, that is a lot in a couple months
theres been something like 140,000 baseball games played ever.....and for there to be only 20 (now 21ish) perfect games, people are not over reacting....especially here in michigan
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Fans
Umps
The breeze
The Sun!
Catwalks in domes!
these all affect the outcome of the game
Instant Replay has no place in baseball
they could have done that in this game... if another umpire had seen that the runner was out.
Another baseball purist. Fuck that. There is no legit argument against instant replay except it changes tradition.
And while I'm bitching, the pace of the game is too slow. Lol.
Commissioner Bud Selig has the power to reverse umpire Jim Joyce's missed call that came with two outs in the ninth inning Wednesday night in Detroit. Joyce ruled Cleveland's Jason Donald safe, then admitted he got it wrong.
Selig would likely consult with his top advisers before making such a ruling. St. Louis Cardinals manager Tony La Russa says the call should be overturned.
Joyce was scheduled to be back at work Thursday afternoon, umpiring at home plate in the game between the Tigers and Indians.
In 1991, a panel headed by then-commissioner Fay Vincent took a look at the record book and decided to throw out 50 no-hitters for various reasons.
Armando Galarraga bitterly sipped a beer minutes after he almost pitched a perfect game, lashing out at first base umpire Jim Joyce for blowing a call on what would have been the final out to negate his place in baseball history.
An apology and hug changed Galarraga's attitude.
Joyce, in tears, asked for a chance to apologize after the Detroit Tigers beat the Cleveland Indians 3-0 Wednesday night.
"You don't see an umpire after the game come out and say, 'Hey, let me tell you I'm sorry,'" Galarraga said "He felt really bad. He didn't even shower."
The perfect game that wasn't.
MLB declined comment on Joyce's call. As it stands, baseball replays can only be used for questionable home runs. There's no appealing a judgment call, either by replay or protest.
Social networking sites, meanwhile, were buzzing about it.
Galarraga, who was barely known outside of Detroit a day ago, and Joyce, whose career had flourished in relative anonymity, quickly became trending topics on Twitter. At least one anti-Joyce Facebook page was created shortly after the game ended and firejimjoyce.com was launched.
"I worked with Don Denkinger, and I know what he went through, but I've never had a moment like this," Joyce said.
Denkinger didn't have to deal with the wrath of fans on Twitter or Facebook. Denkinger helped tilt the 1985 World Series by blowing a call as a first base umpire, and that followed him throughout his career
Joyce has been calling balls and strikes and deciding if runners are out or safe as a full-time major league umpire since 1989. He has been respected enough to be on the field for two World Series, 11 other playoff series and a pair of All-Star games.
A split-second decision he made will probably haunt him for the rest of his career.
Joyce emphatically signaled safe when Cleveland's Jason Donald clearly didn't beat a throw to first base for what would've been the last out in Armando Galarraga's perfect game for the Detroit Tigers, setting off a chorus of groans and boos that echoed in Comerica Park.
The instantly infamous play also will add to the argument that Major League Baseball needs to expand its use of replays.
Chuck Klonke, the official scorer Wednesday night with nearly three decades of experience, said he would not change the disputed play to an error from a hit to give Galarraga a no-hitter.
"I looked at the replay right after it happened, and Miguel Cabrera made a good throw and Galarraga didn't miss the bag so you couldn't do anything but call it a hit," Klonke said Thursday morning. "I watched the replay from the center-field camera, which some people thought showed Galarraga might've bobbled the ball, and I didn't see it that way at all. I have 24 hours to change a call, but I wouldn't consider it.
"End of story."
Not quite.
The story has transcended sports, becoming a topic on NBC's "Today" show Thursday morning and among parents dropping off their kids at the bus stop.
It's rare for an umpire to acknowledge a mistake in one of the few sports that relies heavily on the human eye, but Joyce did to reporters and later to Galarraga.
"It was the biggest call of my career, and I kicked the (stuff) out of it," Joyce said, looking and sounding distraught as he paced in the umpires' locker room. "I just cost that kid a perfect game."
Leyland was livid during the game when he charged out of the dugout to argue the call and got in another heated discussion with Joyce after the final out.
Later, though, Leyland tried to give Joyce a break.
"The players are human, the umpires are human, the managers are human," Leyland said.
Galarraga tried to calm his nerves with a beer after the game after almost getting to celebrate the first perfect game in franchise history.
He was vying for the third perfect game in the majors this year, including Roy Halladay's gem last Saturday night. He seemed to do his job for the 27th out along with first baseman Miguel Cabrera on a play teams work on often in spring training.
Donald hit a grounder in the hole between first and second, Cabrera fielded it and threw to first, where Galarraga caught the ball at least a step ahead of Donald, replays showed.
"I feel sad," Galarraga said.
Cabrera said he didn't want to talk about it and Donald answered questions from reporters after a long soak in the tub.
"I didn't know if I beat the throw or not," Donald said. "But given the circumstances, I thought for sure I'd be called out."
The Tigers huddled around one of the two big-screen televisions in their clubhouse, standing stoically and silently as the play was shown over and over.
"I know I played in a perfect game," Detroit shortstop Ramon Santiago said. "In my mind, on June 2, Armando Galarraga threw a no-hitter. I'm going to get a ball signed by him." "
I will be happy if Selig changes the call; and makes it **OFFICIALLY** a perfect game.... as he should.
but i still believe these human errors are what makes baseball great
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