because its now against societies norms to discipline children the way they should be its frowned upon to just them a smack once in a while and no one wants to deal with reprocussions from it years ago, kids were taught to respect people and faced consequences when they didnt now, its the excuse 'oh well theyre just kids' or 'boys will be boys'
Do you know many people though who would actually say though that they became a good citizen because they were smacked as a kid? In the same way that the reason why people don't do herion isn't because it's illegal, they don't do it because it's stupid.
Phrases like boys will be boys aren't being used for things like that bus monitor being tormented.
me! I turned out better cuz I got smacked around when I was a kid. and I learned that heroin was bad when Janice, Jimi and Jim dropped dead when I was 5. cuz it was stupid.
many a wooden spoon was broken across my backside by my mom and my dad's hands were so big he could pick up a basketball with one hand. they never did any real damage and only hit me with a really good reason, never more than to get my attention before the long lecture about what I did WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. I also had the luxury of being the youngest of 5 kids and learned from their stupid mistakes so the chance of me doing something stupid in the first place was a lot less.
the point we all seem to be missing is; this woman was on the middle school bus as a MONITOR. that means something on the bus needed monitoring in the first place. what the hell did they expect a 64 year old woman to do? this poor woman obviously has put up with this crap long before this happened and the kids who did it were stupidly proud to record themselves doing it AND posting several angles of this abuse. these kids need a really loud wake up call.
neither jimi, janis, or jim died from heroin doe....
oh and i 100 percent agree with what wine has said the whole time... i mean in like the 50's the time of loving families and happiness kids in the south would be beating the living shit out of black kids.. but that shit didnt make in on camera... kids these days are nor worse than kids 20 years.. kids dont change
im just sick of hearing the same bullshit from older type people...they wanna blame the media and television on everything...even tho stastics show teen pregnancy in a decline in the last 20 years but because of teen mom kids dont give a fuck about getting pregnant.... how does that make sense..also witht the drugs too... older people love saying kids are more drugged up now then ever when statistics show that besides weed drugs are on a giant decline, ciggarettes as well..... you blame the media on brainwashing kids but maybe its hittin you a little in the process
I have heard one billion times that the show teen mom glorifies teen pregnancy and that the current generation doesnt understand or doesnt respect the difficulties and responsibilties of safe sex as a teen. Yet if you look at the statistics it would almost show the complete opposite... So then why do people find it so easy just go with their personal beliefs and not nationwide statistics? becuase its easier to believe what you see.. you dont physically see statistics with your own eyes..
so if that is to be true then maybe our over media exposure to bullying just makes it seem as if it is a worse problem than it is, just like the teen preganancy false conclusions.. maybe bullying is on the rise tho who knows.. i just dont really think you can prove that really so it will have to stay with how people personally view it as... but i just find it funny that if someone observes say minorities steal more in the personal life that if they were to make a statement off their personal conclusions that minorities steal more they would be a racist in daynas eyes.. but she can use the same avenue to determine that bullying is worse and thats completely acceptable in that instance.. explain that
This is the town that I live in. Well the metro area.... This is the ghetto part of town with the schools you wouldnt want to send your kids too. My kids go to school on the other side of town at the school that is ranked #1 in test scores in all of Rochester/Buffalo/Syracuse.
Someone set up a fund to send her on a vacation because of that shit... they are running the donation for a month. Within like 6 hours they had already raised 30,000 for her. I wonder what it is up to now.
drinkwine732Posts: 20,418destroyer of motherfuckers
what?
That story took place before 2005, which is when kids started to misbehave.
You mean more kids started to misbehave and in bigger ways...for example break ins and theft
I just got to thinking if there were statistics to help this discussion out, and I found a brief on juvenile crime. It didn't get to breaking and entering and stuff, but it turns out that violent crime in youths has DECREASED since 1980.
violent crime isn't bullying. statistic fail.
What a shame that I wasn't responding to anything you were saying, I was responding to what Leah was saying.
She mentioned break-ins and theft, which are included in the statistics shown. They decreased.
drinkwine732Posts: 20,418destroyer of motherfuckers
me! I turned out better cuz I got smacked around when I was a kid. and I learned that heroin was bad when Janice, Jimi and Jim dropped dead when I was 5. cuz it was stupid.
many a wooden spoon was broken across my backside by my mom and my dad's hands were so big he could pick up a basketball with one hand. they never did any real damage and only hit me with a really good reason, never more than to get my attention before the long lecture about what I did WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. I also had the luxury of being the youngest of 5 kids and learned from their stupid mistakes so the chance of me doing something stupid in the first place was a lot less.
But would you say that's the reason that you aren't a menace to society? Just because you had a little physical discipline, that would be why you don't do things like this? It's got to be more than that.
the point we all seem to be missing is; this woman was on the middle school bus as a MONITOR. that means something on the bus needed monitoring in the first place. what the hell did they expect a 64 year old woman to do? this poor woman obviously has put up with this crap long before this happened and the kids who did it were stupidly proud to record themselves doing it AND posting several angles of this abuse. these kids need a really loud wake up call.
WakeOfAshesPosts: 21,665destroyer of motherfuckers
Lol @ the war.
Those kids would've gotten the fuck beat out of them if I was on the bus, the bitches included, and that video is prime example A of why I was an outcast at school and was never like anyone else. Bunch of fucking useless retards.
Now, I'm not an angel, I've fucked with teachers to the fullest extent (Not sure if the old lady is a teacher or not.), but that shit was borderline abuse, I've never went that far, everything I did was for laughs, I only went personal when a teacher called me a good for nothing moron, but that shit looked completely unprovoked.
It's very nice of you to say that, but I don't believe it is true. Greece is a pretty ghetto area and kids that go to that school are generally from families that have barely enough money to put food on the table, and generally give 0 fucks about their kids. These shits are kids who are likely neglected and dont have any positive role models in their lives. Now don't get me wrong, I aint making excuses for them being shits, and I wasnt saying you are a shit with my first sentence. What I am saying is that if you went to a school like this, you probably wouldnt have made it if you had any sort of integrity and honor. The pack would have eaten you up because you were different.
My thoughts while watching that video was "Not surprising. It's from Greece NY". Those kids are shits because they have no positive role models. They have people giving 0 fucks about them.... This doesnt justify it but it's like duh. It's like Chris Rock says "If your kids call their grandma 'Ma', and call their mom 'Pam', that kids going to jail! You aint saving college money, you're saving bail money"
WakeOfAshesPosts: 21,665destroyer of motherfuckers
the point we all seem to be missing is; this woman was on the middle school bus as a MONITOR. that means something on the bus needed monitoring in the first place. what the hell did they expect a 64 year old woman to do? this poor woman obviously has put up with this crap long before this happened and the kids who did it were stupidly proud to record themselves doing it AND posting several angles of this abuse. these kids need a really loud wake up call.
This is a really good point.
Yes. Greece NY is the epitome of the Ghetto. This treatment of her was probably a daily experience. The shits just uploaded the video to youtube yesterday... that is the only difference.
This is the town that I live in. Well the metro area.... This is the ghetto part of town with the schools you wouldnt want to send your kids too. My kids go to school on the other side of town at the school that is ranked #1 in test scores in all of Rochester/Buffalo/Syracuse.
Someone set up a fund to send her on a vacation because of that shit... they are running the donation for a month. Within like 6 hours they had already raised 30,000 for her. I wonder what it is up to now.
Last I checked it was over 80 thousand )
I only watched 2 minutes of the video does it get worse than them calling her fat the whole time and making fun of her for crying?
They make fun of her cause her son killed himself which is why she started crying. uh she just takes the abuse through the whole video and tries not to let it get to her.
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many a wooden spoon was broken across my backside by my mom and my dad's hands were so big he could pick up a basketball with one hand. they never did any real damage and only hit me with a really good reason, never more than to get my attention before the long lecture about what I did WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. I also had the luxury of being the youngest of 5 kids and learned from their stupid mistakes so the chance of me doing something stupid in the first place was a lot less.
the point we all seem to be missing is; this woman was on the middle school bus as a MONITOR. that means something on the bus needed monitoring in the first place. what the hell did they expect a 64 year old woman to do? this poor woman obviously has put up with this crap long before this happened and the kids who did it were stupidly proud to record themselves doing it AND posting several angles of this abuse. these kids need a really loud wake up call.
oh and i 100 percent agree with what wine has said the whole time... i mean in like the 50's the time of loving families and happiness kids in the south would be beating the living shit out of black kids.. but that shit didnt make in on camera... kids these days are nor worse than kids 20 years.. kids dont change
"we didn't start the fire, it was always burning as the world was turning"
I have heard one billion times that the show teen mom glorifies teen pregnancy and that the current generation doesnt understand or doesnt respect the difficulties and responsibilties of safe sex as a teen. Yet if you look at the statistics it would almost show the complete opposite... So then why do people find it so easy just go with their personal beliefs and not nationwide statistics? becuase its easier to believe what you see.. you dont physically see statistics with your own eyes..
so if that is to be true then maybe our over media exposure to bullying just makes it seem as if it is a worse problem than it is, just like the teen preganancy false conclusions.. maybe bullying is on the rise tho who knows.. i just dont really think you can prove that really so it will have to stay with how people personally view it as... but i just find it funny that if someone observes say minorities steal more in the personal life that if they were to make a statement off their personal conclusions that minorities steal more they would be a racist in daynas eyes.. but she can use the same avenue to determine that bullying is worse and thats completely acceptable in that instance.. explain that
Someone set up a fund to send her on a vacation because of that shit... they are running the donation for a month. Within like 6 hours they had already raised 30,000 for her. I wonder what it is up to now.
She mentioned break-ins and theft, which are included in the statistics shown. They decreased.
My thoughts while watching that video was "Not surprising. It's from Greece NY". Those kids are shits because they have no positive role models. They have people giving 0 fucks about them.... This doesnt justify it but it's like duh. It's like Chris Rock says "If your kids call their grandma 'Ma', and call their mom 'Pam', that kids going to jail! You aint saving college money, you're saving bail money"
http://www.indiegogo.com/loveforkarenhklein
It keeps raising like every minute.