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  • Razor_SharkRazor_Shark Posts: 12,604 balls deep
    I do find it funny though. OFWGKTA shows more of what the true Metal spirit is supposed to be than any modern Metal band I can think of. AKA, do what the fuck what you want, do you, and be accepting, don't worry about what others do, don't give a fuck about the haters. Except Metalheads do the exact opposite.
    Ignorance, ignorance everywhere.

    When did I say that you shouldn't do what you want? I just think there are subgenres for a reason, why would they have been made if we are just going to throw them away?
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  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
    I do find it funny though. OFWGKTA shows more of what the true Metal spirit is supposed to be than any modern Metal band I can think of. AKA, do what the fuck what you want, do you, and be accepting, don't worry about what others do, don't give a fuck about the haters. Except Metalheads do the exact opposite.
    There is no "metal spirit." There is no single phrase that you can say that will accurately summarize what metal is about. You love the word ignorant, but then will say things like "metalheads do the exact opposite." C'mon, you're smarter than that.
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  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Nope. Metal was always supposed to be about being yourself, not giving a fuck, standing up to people who oppress you, and bands like Pantera pushed that attitude, but the Metal community acts the exact opposite now.
  • Razor_SharkRazor_Shark Posts: 12,604 balls deep
    You basing your opinion of metalheads on the opinions of people who come here, that is a bad representation of the metal community.
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  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Nope. Metal was always supposed to be about being yourself, not giving a fuck, standing up to people who oppress you, and bands like Pantera pushed that attitude, but the Metal community acts the exact opposite now.
    You are now the one putting metal into a box, don't you see that? By claiming there's something that metal was ever "about," you're claiming that there are things that it is "not about." Fundamental problems here, man. Metal was never about a specific type of lifestyle, it was always defined by the music.
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  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers
    And honestly, there's just so much to be looked down upon in Metal. First of all, extreme hypocrisy. So much shit talked on Scenie bands for dressing pretty, yet they worship bands that dress up like faggot ass clowns with corpse paint, like that's any better. At least those Scenie bands legitimately dress like that, you'd catch them on the street dressed exactly like that. Yea, you'd really see Abbath walking down the street dressed like a fucking clown, right? No. So if anything, Metal has even MORE of an image.

    Also, it's just silly. Come on, it has fucking genres called "PornoGrind" "Hyper Violence" "GoreGrind" among other retarded subgenres that actually take themselves seriously. I don't see how a Metalhead can hate on Hip Hop when Metal has pointless silly shit like that. The most silly that Hip Hop gets is bragging about money, ice, and bitches. And then stupid dance shit like Soulja Boy.

    Last thing, I don't know how Metalheads can sit and say Hip Hop is noise, when most Metal, namely Thrash, Black, and Death, is the most bland genre out there, with no structure. All 3 genres are always the same shit, different name, with a few diamonds in the rough here and there. Sorry, but I like my albums to have individual tracks that each sound different, instead of the same song 10 times over with nothing but blasts and tremolo picking. Behemoth is one of the very few Death Metal bands that make every song sound different and unique, as well as giving them amazing structure, great choruses, and overall catchiness. Honestly, the only truly original genre in Metal, IMO, is Folk Metal, and even that's pushing it, because a lot of the Folk bands sound way too similar.
  • Razor_SharkRazor_Shark Posts: 12,604 balls deep
    And honestly, there's just so much to be looked down upon in Metal. First of all, extreme hypocrisy. So much shit talked on Scenie bands for dressing pretty, yet they worship bands that dress up like faggot ass clowns with corpse paint, like that's any better. At least those Scenie bands legitimately dress like that, you'd catch them on the street dressed exactly like that. Yea, you'd really see Abbath walking down the street dressed like a fucking clown, right? No. So if anything, Metal has even MORE of an image.

    Also, it's just silly. Come on, it has fucking genres called "PornoGrind" "Hyper Violence" "GoreGrind" among other retarded subgenres that actually take themselves seriously. I don't see how a Metalhead can hate on Hip Hop when Metal has pointless silly shit like that. The most silly that Hip Hop gets is bragging about money, ice, and bitches. And then stupid dance shit like Soulja Boy.

    Last thing, I don't know how Metalheads can sit and say Hip Hop is noise, when most Metal, namely Thrash, Black, and Death, is the most bland genre out there, with no structure. All 3 genres are always the same shit, different name, with a few diamonds in the rough here and there. Sorry, but I like my albums to have individual tracks that each sound different, instead of the same song 10 times over with nothing but blasts and tremolo picking. Behemoth is one of the very few Death Metal bands that make every song sound different and unique, as well as giving them amazing structure, great choruses, and overall catchiness. Honestly, the only truly original genre in Metal, IMO, is Folk Metal, and even that's pushing it, because a lot of the Folk bands sound way too similar.
    You don't listen to Avant-Garde do you?
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  • myplagueRobmyplagueRob Posts: 1,375
    Last thing, I don't know how Metalheads can sit and say Hip Hop is noise, when most Metal, namely Thrash, Black, and Death, is the most bland genre out there, with no structure.
    :-( Really?
  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers
    And honestly, there's just so much to be looked down upon in Metal. First of all, extreme hypocrisy. So much shit talked on Scenie bands for dressing pretty, yet they worship bands that dress up like faggot ass clowns with corpse paint, like that's any better. At least those Scenie bands legitimately dress like that, you'd catch them on the street dressed exactly like that. Yea, you'd really see Abbath walking down the street dressed like a fucking clown, right? No. So if anything, Metal has even MORE of an image.

    Also, it's just silly. Come on, it has fucking genres called "PornoGrind" "Hyper Violence" "GoreGrind" among other retarded subgenres that actually take themselves seriously. I don't see how a Metalhead can hate on Hip Hop when Metal has pointless silly shit like that. The most silly that Hip Hop gets is bragging about money, ice, and bitches. And then stupid dance shit like Soulja Boy.

    Last thing, I don't know how Metalheads can sit and say Hip Hop is noise, when most Metal, namely Thrash, Black, and Death, is the most bland genre out there, with no structure. All 3 genres are always the same shit, different name, with a few diamonds in the rough here and there. Sorry, but I like my albums to have individual tracks that each sound different, instead of the same song 10 times over with nothing but blasts and tremolo picking. Behemoth is one of the very few Death Metal bands that make every song sound different and unique, as well as giving them amazing structure, great choruses, and overall catchiness. Honestly, the only truly original genre in Metal, IMO, is Folk Metal, and even that's pushing it, because a lot of the Folk bands sound way too similar.
    You don't listen to Avant-Garde do you?
    That's one small genre that very few bands play, and it's terrible. It's original, but in an extremely fucking overdone way.

  • Razor_SharkRazor_Shark Posts: 12,604 balls deep
    Not terrible, very artistic and hard to understand, but not terrible. It is a pretty big genre too, on par with genres such as GoreGrind, Pornogrind, and Powerviolence, which are mentioned in your post.
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  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers
    I also hate the "Hip Hop takes no talent/doesn't use real instruments." argument. Metal only takes a certain level of fucking talent too. It only takes so much skill to blast and play fast double bass. As well as play tremolo riffs.

    Do people forget that Pianos/Synthesizers/Keyboards and Drums are also real instruments too? Just because it doesn't use Guitars in most cases, doesn't mean shit.
  • myplagueRobmyplagueRob Posts: 1,375
  • Razor_SharkRazor_Shark Posts: 12,604 balls deep
    I'm out. :-))
    Ya me too, if Erik is going to be ignorant to say an entire genre as varied as Avant-Garde is horrible then there is something wrong.
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  • EpisodeEpisode Posts: 32,049 destroyer of motherfuckers
    I'm out. :-))
    Ya me too, if Erik is going to be ignorant to say an entire genre as varied as Avant-Garde is horrible then there is something wrong.
    Sigh's "Scenes From Hell." Or Scenes OF Hell, whatever the fuck it's called, was one of the most terrible albums I've ever heard. It was different and odd just to be different and odd, and they overdid the fuck out of it.

  • OPPOPP Posts: 50,132 spicy boy
    Behemoth--->BMTH--->depressive black metal--->OFWGKTA--->???

    :-?
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