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how to raise a criminal

WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
edited April 2011 in Off Topic
I had an interesting argument yesterday and thought I would bring it here. I was watching the news and they made some statement that 1 in 3 child girls and 1 in 5 child boys are sexually abused/molested. My instant reaction to that comment was that it was total bullshit. There was no way that statistic was valid unless it is a statistic of the ghetto. Anyways, that was the starting point to the debate because they thought it was absurd that I would claim that children have a greater chance of being molested or sexually abused in the ghetto.

So that is my uneducated claim- If you have two neighborhoods where 1 neighborhood has a average household income of 200k and the mother stays at home to raise the kids, verses another neighborhood where both parents are worked like dogs and bring home 20k, those children have a much higher percentage of being murdered, beat up, sexually abused, or being the victims of theft. Furthermore I think their odds of being successful (by general society terms) is much lower than someone born into a rich environment.

Anyone disagree with my statement?
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  • ShaneShane Posts: 15,229 balls deep
    did you figure that out all by yourself?
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    i was thinking the exact same thing about the ghetto part before i even got to it. that statistic does seem wrong.
    thank you! I obviously agree. however what do you think about poverty levels having an impact in sexual crimes?
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    So I know this single mom who chooses to live in the ghetto because it makes her commute very short, and saves her money so she can go to boy-band concerts. The price she pays for this, is her child is forced to go to a really horrible school, worst in the entire seattle area. He is constantly picked on and beat up. He has to go to shitty programs like "the boys and girls club" because it is free for the mom. Anyways, it was recently discovered through counseling that the child has been sexual abused.

    My thought was “not surprising”, look where she lives? For maybe 200 dollars more per month she could move to the suburbs, put her kid in an upper middle class school…. She could afford it but she would have a 30 minute commute. She doesn’t want to do that.

    Seems stupid to me. Look at what happened to your child? Move him to a better life?! I mean jesus Christ! You are a mom now and that is just the sort of shit you need to do. Move back to your beloved ghetto next decade when you don’t have kids.

    Anyways... Apparently I am wrong because “her living situation has nothing to do with him being sexually abused”. Really? I bet it does.
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    Well, the living situation isn't caused by it, but where they're living is part of the cause.

    What a shitty mother, though. I would call her out on that bullshit.
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Well, the living situation isn't caused by it, but where they're living is part of the cause.

    What a shitty mother, though. I would call her out on that bullshit.
    yeah... I wasnt trying to say that it was her household that caused the crime, I was just saying she lives in an area where that sort of crime is more common. Perhaps that is why I received so much resistance to my position last night.

    it isnt my place to call this lady out. She isnt my friend, I just know of her. When she found out about the sexual abuse she moved from a shitty house in the ghetto to a shitty apartment in the ghetto, and my comment was "get the fuck out of the ghetto"
  • SkullAndCrossbonesSkullAndCrossbones Posts: 16,452 destroyer of motherfuckers
    i was thinking the exact same thing about the ghetto part before i even got to it. that statistic does seem wrong.
    thank you! I obviously agree. however what do you think about poverty levels having an impact in sexual crimes?
    the majority of child abuse (sexual, neglect, beatings, etc.) i hear about are kids that come from poor families, broken homes, and the ghetto.
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  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    God, I can't stand stupid people like that. Even if I don't know someone very well and they tell me something that just isn't right I call them out on it (if they're around me, of course). I guess I can be an ass sometimes, but if people don't want me "putting them down" then they should keep their mouth shut.

    I also call people out in public if they are being rude to employees somewhere. I'll stand behind them and be like "Wow, someone certainly has a stick up their ass..." and they instantly shut up. :-))
  • Shanez_WifeShanez_Wife Posts: 2,008 just the tip
    God, I can't stand stupid people like that. Even if I don't know someone very well and they tell me something that just isn't right I call them out on it (if they're around me, of course). I guess I can be an ass sometimes, but if people don't want me "putting them down" then they should keep their mouth shut.

    I also call people out in public if they are being rude to employees somewhere. I'll stand behind them and be like "Wow, someone certainly has a stick up their ass..." and they instantly shut up. :-))
    Lol, I love people like that. Especially when there's a sign stating something and people are too stupid to get off their phones to pay attention to an employee.
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    lol. yeah, I usually call people out as well.

    But like you mentioned, in this case I am not ever around this person to call them out. I've met her a few times, but at that point in time I hadnt heard about her child being abused. And I really thought that maybe this was the most she could afford. I doubt I'll ever run into them again since I live a united states away from them.
  • GULCH_OF_ROTGULCH_OF_ROT Posts: 5,795 salt miner
    CONANS PARENTS WHERE MURDERED RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM THEN HE WAS FORCED TO PUSH A WHEEL OF PAIN WHILE BEING WHIPPED FOR LIKE 10 YEARS AND HE TURNED OUT JUST FINE
  • Shanez_WifeShanez_Wife Posts: 2,008 just the tip
    Once in a blue moon I'll see a mother freak out on their kids in drive thru (like hitting the kids hard) if I feel it is totally uncalled for, I'll go over the speaker and say, "Ma'am/Sir you are aware that you are on a security camera right now." They'll instantly stop. I'm sorry but if your kid is just trying to say "Mom, I want juice, not soda" They don't deserve to be hit for asking for the healthier choice.
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    Ah, gotcha. :)


    Lol, I love people like that. Especially when there's a sign stating something and people are too stupid to get off their phones to pay attention to an employee.
    Seriously, the cell phone shit is fucking rude. Ugh, I always treat employees, especially waiters/food workers with politeness because I TOTALLY KNOW THAT FEELIN' BRO!
  • GULCH_OF_ROTGULCH_OF_ROT Posts: 5,795 salt miner
    Once in a blue moon I'll see a mother freak out on their kids in drive thru (like hitting the kids hard) if I feel it is totally uncalled for, I'll go over the speaker and say, "Ma'am/Sir you are aware that you are on a security camera right now." They'll instantly stop. I'm sorry but if your kid is just trying to say "Mom, I want juice, not soda" They don't deserve to be hit for asking for the healthier choice.
    WHAT IF THE CHILD IS A LITTLE FUCK TARD THAT IS ALWAYS STARTING SHIT YOU DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE SMACKED?

  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    Once in a blue moon I'll see a mother freak out on their kids in drive thru (like hitting the kids hard) if I feel it is totally uncalled for, I'll go over the speaker and say, "Ma'am/Sir you are aware that you are on a security camera right now." They'll instantly stop. I'm sorry but if your kid is just trying to say "Mom, I want juice, not soda" They don't deserve to be hit for asking for the healthier choice.
    Oh god, I was in a Denny's once with some friends and saw these parents keep hitting their kids REALLY hard with their hands and the fucking menus when the kids were just being... well kids. They were like, trying to get them to not do anything silly and they were like, 5. So we were like "WOW you know you're a great parent when you have to resort to hitting your kids!".

    They quickly stopped and kept looking over at our table and were trying to be quieter and stopped being mean to their kids after that.
  • GULCH_OF_ROTGULCH_OF_ROT Posts: 5,795 salt miner
    Ah, gotcha. :)


    Lol, I love people like that. Especially when there's a sign stating something and people are too stupid to get off their phones to pay attention to an employee.
    Seriously, the cell phone shit is fucking rude. Ugh, I always treat employees, especially waiters/food workers with politeness because I TOTALLY KNOW THAT FEELIN' BRO!
    I TIP 20%
    I DONT NEED TO BE KISSING ANY ASS AT PRICES LIKE THAT
  • Bottle_TreeBottle_Tree Posts: 7,166 just the tip
    Once in a blue moon I'll see a mother freak out on their kids in drive thru (like hitting the kids hard) if I feel it is totally uncalled for, I'll go over the speaker and say, "Ma'am/Sir you are aware that you are on a security camera right now." They'll instantly stop. I'm sorry but if your kid is just trying to say "Mom, I want juice, not soda" They don't deserve to be hit for asking for the healthier choice.
    WHAT IF THE CHILD IS A LITTLE FUCK TARD THAT IS ALWAYS STARTING SHIT YOU DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE SMACKED?

    Then they should of raised their kids to not be a fuck tard.
  • GULCH_OF_ROTGULCH_OF_ROT Posts: 5,795 salt miner
    Once in a blue moon I'll see a mother freak out on their kids in drive thru (like hitting the kids hard) if I feel it is totally uncalled for, I'll go over the speaker and say, "Ma'am/Sir you are aware that you are on a security camera right now." They'll instantly stop. I'm sorry but if your kid is just trying to say "Mom, I want juice, not soda" They don't deserve to be hit for asking for the healthier choice.
    Oh god, I was in a Denny's once with some friends and saw these parents keep hitting their kids REALLY hard with their hands and the fucking menus when the kids were just being... well kids. They were like, trying to get them to not do anything silly and they were like, 5. So we were like "WOW you know you're a great parent when you have to resort to hitting your kids!".

    They quickly stopped and kept looking over at our table and were trying to be quieter and stopped being mean to their kids after that.
    CHILDREN NEED TO HAVE FEAR IN THEIR HEARTS OR THEY WILL BE LIKE HOW I WAS WHEN I WAS YOUNG, A LITTLE FUCKING ASSHOLE
  • GULCH_OF_ROTGULCH_OF_ROT Posts: 5,795 salt miner
    Once in a blue moon I'll see a mother freak out on their kids in drive thru (like hitting the kids hard) if I feel it is totally uncalled for, I'll go over the speaker and say, "Ma'am/Sir you are aware that you are on a security camera right now." They'll instantly stop. I'm sorry but if your kid is just trying to say "Mom, I want juice, not soda" They don't deserve to be hit for asking for the healthier choice.
    WHAT IF THE CHILD IS A LITTLE FUCK TARD THAT IS ALWAYS STARTING SHIT YOU DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE SMACKED?

    Then they should of raised their kids to not be a fuck tard.
    HOW MANY BROTHERS OR SISTERS DO YOU HAVE?
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    edited April 2011


    WHAT IF THE CHILD IS A LITTLE FUCK TARD THAT IS ALWAYS STARTING SHIT YOU DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE SMACKED?

    nope. i'm a pro and child raising.... just give them options and everything is cool.

    "I WANT A CANDY BAR NOW!"
    "no"
    "I WANT A CANDY BAR NOW OR ILL CRY AND THROW A FIT"
    "you know what they have here? apples and bananas. do you want an apple or a banana?"
    "hmmm... Ill take a apple!"
    "okay here you go"
    "your the best dad ever"
    "naturally. B-) "
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