WakeOfAshesPosts: 21,665destroyer of motherfuckers
'se7en' hacks, ftl
Although Se7en is a great movie, it clearly is not horror. I get the comparison you are making in that the killer in se7en was trying to show people were wrong, and so was the killer in saw... however se7en was more psychological where saw was straight up horror. I dont think they ripped off se7en at all. IMHO
i do...top to bottom
it's not just the theft of plot device, but the overall tone and color scheme...even down to the music. 'se7en' famously starts with a 'closer' edit, so the 'saw' guys went and got a reznor lackey, charlie clouser, to handle the score. total hackwork.
disagree.... but by your same logic you could say every horror film is a rip off of Thirteen Women. Horror in general has very few plot deviance... In a genre of movies that has so much recycled material, I am surprised that you would be calling Saw out on this.
I am not saying that Saw did steal Se7en's plot, but assuming it did, so what? It took a thriller idea and made a great horror film out of it.... A horror film that was very different then any other horror film made. So what if it had similar concepts as a thriller... totally different movie and genre.
children of the corn, original halloween, the shinning, and pet cemetery are the only horror movies worth watching
AND CASTLE FREAK, EVENT HORIZON, THE GOLDEN CHILD, HIGH TENSION, HOSTEL, HELLRAISER, FRIDAY THE 13TH, MANIAC, TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE, JENIFFERS BODY, FROM DUSK TILL DAWN, PLANET TERROR, THE LIST JUST GOES ON AND ON
1. Skull - Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2/Wrong Turn 2. Bianca - Stay Alive/From Hell 3. Blind - Alien/Clockwork Orange 4. Wake - Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) / Saw I 5. Monica - Psycho/It 6. Brian - Suspiria/Christine 7. GULCH - CASTLE FREAK/PET SEMATARY 8. Ricky - Halloween(original)/Funhouse 9. Down - Nosferatu/Dracula (Lugosi) 10. George - The Others/Hostel 11. FaceFuck - The Shining/30 Days Of Night 12. Distance - Children of the Corn/A Nightmare On Elm Street
"That's another thing I love about metal, it's so fuckin' huge yet certain people don't even know it exists." - Rob Zombie
MetalSSlayerPosts: 6,164destroyer of motherfuckers
edited June 2011
1. Skull - Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2/Wrong Turn 2. Bianca - Stay Alive/From Hell 3. Blind - Alien/Clockwork Orange 4. Wake - Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) / Saw I 5. Monica - Psycho/It 6. Brian - Suspiria/Christine 7. GULCH - CASTLE FREAK/PET SEMATARY 8. Ricky - Halloween(original)/Funhouse 9. Down - Nosferatu/Dracula (Lugosi) 10. George - The Others/Hostel 11. FaceFuck - The Shining/30 Days Of Night 12. Distance - Children of the Corn/A Nightmare On Elm Street 13. SpartanSlayer - Scream/Friday the 13th
1. Skull - Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2/Wrong Turn 2. Bianca - Stay Alive/From Hell 3. Blind - Alien/Clockwork Orange 4. Wake - Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) / Saw I 5. Monica - Psycho/It 6. Brian - Suspiria/Christine 7. GULCH - CASTLE FREAK/PET SEMATARY 8. Ricky - Halloween(original)/Funhouse 9. Down - Nosferatu/Dracula (Lugosi) 10. George - The Others/Hostel 11. FaceFuck - The Shining/30 Days Of Night 12. Distance - Children of the Corn/A Nightmare On Elm Street 13. SpartanSlayer - Scream/Friday the 13th
1. Skull - Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2/Wrong Turn 2. Bianca - Stay Alive/From Hell 3. Blind - Alien/Clockwork Orange 4. Wake - Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) / Saw I 5. Monica - Psycho/It 6. Brian - Suspiria/Christine 7. GULCH - CASTLE FREAK/PET SEMATARY 8. Ricky - Halloween(original)/Funhouse 9. Down - Nosferatu/Dracula (Lugosi) 10. George - The Others/Hostel 11. FaceFuck - The Shining/30 Days Of Night 12. Distance - Children of the Corn/A Nightmare On Elm Street 13. SpartanSlayer - Scream/Friday the 13th 14. Satan - Audition/Deadgirl
"That's another thing I love about metal, it's so fuckin' huge yet certain people don't even know it exists." - Rob Zombie
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I am not saying that Saw did steal Se7en's plot, but assuming it did, so what? It took a thriller idea and made a great horror film out of it.... A horror film that was very different then any other horror film made. So what if it had similar concepts as a thriller... totally different movie and genre.
1. Skull - Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2/Wrong Turn
2. Bianca - Stay Alive/From Hell
3. Blind - Alien/Clockwork Orange
4. Wake - Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) / Saw I
5. Monica - Psycho/It
6. Brian - Suspiria/Christine
7. GULCH - CASTLE FREAK/PET SEMATARY
8. Ricky - Halloween(original)/Funhouse
9. Down - Nosferatu/Dracula (Lugosi)
10. George - The Others/Hostel
11. FaceFuck - The Shining/30 Days Of Night
2. Bianca - Stay Alive/From Hell
3. Blind - Alien/Clockwork Orange
4. Wake - Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) / Saw I
5. Monica - Psycho/It
6. Brian - Suspiria/Christine
7. GULCH - CASTLE FREAK/PET SEMATARY
8. Ricky - Halloween(original)/Funhouse
9. Down - Nosferatu/Dracula (Lugosi)
10. George - The Others/Hostel
11. FaceFuck - The Shining/30 Days Of Night
12. Distance - Children of the Corn/A Nightmare On Elm Street
2. Bianca - Stay Alive/From Hell
3. Blind - Alien/Clockwork Orange
4. Wake - Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) / Saw I
5. Monica - Psycho/It
6. Brian - Suspiria/Christine
7. GULCH - CASTLE FREAK/PET SEMATARY
8. Ricky - Halloween(original)/Funhouse
9. Down - Nosferatu/Dracula (Lugosi)
10. George - The Others/Hostel
11. FaceFuck - The Shining/30 Days Of Night
12. Distance - Children of the Corn/A Nightmare On Elm Street
13. SpartanSlayer - Scream/Friday the 13th
audition/deadgirl
2. Bianca - Stay Alive/From Hell
3. Blind - Alien/Clockwork Orange
4. Wake - Texas Chainsaw Massacre (1974) / Saw I
5. Monica - Psycho/It
6. Brian - Suspiria/Christine
7. GULCH - CASTLE FREAK/PET SEMATARY
8. Ricky - Halloween(original)/Funhouse
9. Down - Nosferatu/Dracula (Lugosi)
10. George - The Others/Hostel
11. FaceFuck - The Shining/30 Days Of Night
12. Distance - Children of the Corn/A Nightmare On Elm Street
13. SpartanSlayer - Scream/Friday the 13th
14. Satan - Audition/Deadgirl