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People that we should have the day off for instead of MLK

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  • ShaneShane Posts: 15,229 balls deep
    i bet MLK is rolling in his grave at what the Blacks did with the freedom he gave them
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    Lincoln did more for civil rights than MLK
  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,047 master of ceremonies
    Lincoln did more for civil rights than MLK
    And we have a day for him too...
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    Lincoln did more for civil rights than MLK
    And we have a day for him too...
    yes, but he has to share it with other presidents

  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    Lincoln did more for civil rights than MLK
    wrong
  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,047 master of ceremonies
    Lincoln did more for civil rights than MLK
    wrong
    Nola wrong.
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    Lincoln did more for civil rights than MLK
    wrong
    then why was MLK's "i have a dream" speech done at the Lincoln memorial?

  • TigerTiger Posts: 2,116 balls deep
    i bet MLK is rolling in his grave at what the Blacks did with the freedom he gave them
    Yep, everywhere you go its like you owe them something for something that happened 200 years ago....Fkn get over it
    The day you need a gun and don't have one, may be your last.

  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    Lincoln'smain goal in office was to preserve the union of america. Slavery was not his main issue and only announced the emancipation proclamation as a stategy. Was he a great president? yes but MLK fought daily for the specific cause of civil rights so i dont see how you could make that claim
  • Razor_SharkRazor_Shark Posts: 12,604 balls deep
    Lincoln did more for civil rights than MLK
    wrong
    Nola wrong.
    No, Nola is right, Lincoln didn't give a fuck about civil rights, he was a lying, racist, idiot who only cared about getting himself ahead.

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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    lol i wouldnt go that far....
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    and why did Booth assassinate Lincoln? Oh yeah because he freed the slaves and started to move forward to give voting rights to blacks. His assassination stopped that
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    edited January 2011
    why the man killed him is irrelevant. Lincoln did do things to improve and progress civil rights, i just think imo that MLK did at least just as much and probably more. after lincoln was assassinated blacks did not really move much forward until MLK came along. once MLK died we saw significant changes to civil rights and a pretty quick pace. i think that was due to King's specific goal of civil rights. not much happened after lincoln died because his ultimate goal didnt really have anything to do with slaves, he was just relieved that the country he ran wasnt going to split in half. like i said both important, but i think mlk at the very least deserves his day and is one of the most significant figures in american history
  • Razor_SharkRazor_Shark Posts: 12,604 balls deep
    Lincoln was completely willing to stop where he stopped, I used to be his biggest fan until I actually read the Lincoln-Douglas debates, that is where that shell of a man showed his true colors.
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  • GULCH_OF_ROTGULCH_OF_ROT Posts: 5,795 salt miner
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  • rammstein516rammstein516 Posts: 3,720 juggalo
    Nola is right in this. The Civil War was started completely because of jobs. Think of it this way, there was not one white guy in the North leaving his family behind and risking his life to free the slaves. The issue was, Lincoln didn't want slavery coming into the North, that would obviously take away jobs. Lincoln didn't really care about freeing slaves, he just didn't want slavery in the North.
  • GULCH_OF_ROTGULCH_OF_ROT Posts: 5,795 salt miner
    Nola is right in this. The Civil War was started completely because of jobs. Think of it this way, there was not one white guy in the North leaving his family behind and risking his life to free the slaves. The issue was, Lincoln didn't want slavery coming into the North, that would obviously take away jobs. Lincoln didn't really care about freeing slaves, he just didn't want slavery in the North.
    COOL

  • rammstein516rammstein516 Posts: 3,720 juggalo
    Nola is right in this. The Civil War was started completely because of jobs. Think of it this way, there was not one white guy in the North leaving his family behind and risking his life to free the slaves. The issue was, Lincoln didn't want slavery coming into the North, that would obviously take away jobs. Lincoln didn't really care about freeing slaves, he just didn't want slavery in the North.
    COOL

    You betcha!
  • Alec29Alec29 Posts: 3,864 juggalo
    edited January 2011
    Nola is right in this. The Civil War was started completely because of jobs. Think of it this way, there was not one white guy in the North leaving his family behind and risking his life to free the slaves. The issue was, Lincoln didn't want slavery coming into the North, that would obviously take away jobs. Lincoln didn't really care about freeing slaves, he just didn't want slavery in the North.

    The War of Northern Agression was started over states' rights and not jobs. During the 1860's there wasn't unemployment or welfare so they didn't care who was working and who wasn't. Back then you worked if you wanted to survive. Lincoln was assassinated over his treatment of the recently defeated southern states. He set out to punish those states for actually daring to cecede from the US. Booth just offered him another point of view. Oh, slavery was already in the Northern states. Got there before it got to many areas of the south. A couple hundred years earlier in fact.
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    okay alec is right about the civil war being over states rights. the southern states felt that they could keep slaves if they wanted to because something like that should be up to the states to decide. but northern aggression my ass, the north was progressing and the stupid dumbfuck south wanted to keep slaves doing all there dirty work for them. the north had outlawed slavery for a considerable amount of time prior to the times of the civil war because people started to see that it was wrong to do. if you knew something was as wrong as slavery you would want your entire country to follow something lie that. the whole north picking on the poor 'dont tread on me' south is complete bullshit. Lincoln in fact was trying hard to NOT punish the south as well in fact. alec's point of view is coming off as a warped south person. lincoln wanted to put the bullshit behind and try and move forward. i would like to see actual proof that lincoln was punishing the south cuz its just simply not true
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