That's funny coming from a Philly fan who's team has always come up short like the Cowboys. Every year the Eagles always get a "stacked" team or "outstanding" player only to come up short cause their fat fuck coach can't get it done or their "outstanding" D or players choke when it matters most. I have good hopes for my team this year, because Romo is a damn good QB when he has time in the pocket and we have one of the best receiving corps in the NFL. Our D needs some help but I feel our young guys will come out on their own. Vick will not win them a SB and the Eagles wont have a chance against the Packers, Falcons, or Saints.
You're delusional, to think the Eagles don't stand a chance is just absurd. I've heard more idiotic things come out of your mouth before, like "the cowboys are going to win the superbowl." I'm not delusional. If my team is healthy they have a great chance.
Reid hasn't called the plays on offense in like 5 years. Mortniweg has and did a damn good job last year. They came up one score short of beating the superbowl champion packers. Their problem last year was D. We fixed that bigtime on the line and secondary.
reid still has final say and we all know that....they don't mix plays enough and that will be there demise again.......mortniweg is a piece of shit douche by they way
I agree, whenever they run the ball, they have success in games. That's one thing I hope they do more of. They have a really good RB. I hope they change their philosphy to run more. I won't deny that. I agree.
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Whered Wake go, I wanted to debate some QB's with you bro... :-(
Wake stay out of this thread from now on. You are either trollin or don't know shit about football.
Hoods - sorry man. I had a busy end of the week last week. Things are getting better.
No Trolling though. And I don't know what there is to debate. I have my opinion and you can have yours...
When I watch Brady play, I don't see him making a lot of decisions on his own. And when he is forced to make a decision on his own it seemed to end up bad more often then not. I see Brady as a great athlete, with a great arm, that is almost flawless in running the plays that Belichick called.
Payton on the other hand is leading the whole offense. His coach doesnt call shit. He gets up to the line, see's how things looks, mixes up the play and then executes his offense. Payton Manning is the greatest QB to ever play the game. Not only is he athletic, has a fantastic arm, but is the brains behind the colts entire offense.
I don't see how anyone could compare Manning to Brady. Manning is a much better QB simply because he is running his offense where Brady is just taking orders.
I just think Brady has proved time and time again he is one of the best, not just now, but alltime. Manning is great too, but he doesnt call all the plays, he gets like 3 plays from the D coordinator and goes with one of them. and he also has certain plays he can call everytime. I agree Manning is a great talent, but I cant base him calling a few plays here and there better. thats like saying Montana is no good cause he didnt call all the plays. Brady won superbowls with basically bums on O with a great Oline and noone else 3 times. He is one of the best. SO is Manning...
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I just wonder how great Brady would be if him and Payton Manning switched teams. I don't think Payton would do well in Belichick system because he is too much of a leader to follow Belichick. But I wonder what would happen to Brady if he was put in a system where he had to be more of a leader??? Would he fail? idk- but that is the test of a great QB IMHO.
I agree Brady has a great arm and is a good athletic talent. I don't think he does much besides what Belichick tells him to do, and for that he will always be lower then QB's that are actual leaders. Payton Maning, Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Joe Namath, etc... these guys are/were leaders where Brady is not. When I look at NE's superbowls I think "proof positive that Belichick is one of the greatest coaches to ever call a game"
Brady is one of the top 3 qb's ever imo. They shuffled Rb's, WR's, TE's and O-coordinators in and out his whole career and the Pats still contend for the SB every year. He had absolutely nobody on his offense last year and still lead his team to the best record in the NFL. Don't give me that system shit. The guy is like a surgeon. I've never seen a qb as accurate as him
Not to mention the NFL is a copy cat league. If it's all about the system why haven't other teams and qb's been able to duplicate what he has? Also Brady does call most of his own plays during the game like Manning does, and I don't believe Belichick even has a ton to do with the offensive plays. That's between Brady and the O-coordinator.
Belicheck is a great coach, but all the guys you named had great coaches also when they won superbowls. imo, Brady is in the top 5 maybe top 3 best all-time QB's. Manning is also up there, they are both great, I just look at Brady leading an underdog team to 3 superbowl wins. that says something to me and shows me he is definately a leader. Belicheck is a great coach, but hees not out there making decisions on the field with basically minimal run game. Brady was great, now since he has been injured, he hasnt been the same...
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Not to mention the NFL is a copy cat league. If it's all about the system why haven't other teams and qb's been able to duplicate what he has?
Why doesn't other chess players play like bobby fisher? Why doesnt physicists explain relativity like Einstein did?
They can't copy a system because Belichick is the system. Belichick is the man that makes it all work in NE. Proof in point, when Brady was injured, Cassel filled in nicely. I'll give you that Cassel wasnt as good as running Belichick system as Brady was, But Cassel also isnt as athletically gifted as Brady is.
If you think Brady is the most accurate QB ever, then you havent been watching football for that long. How many QB challenges did Brady win? Answer- ZERO. I think the most accurate passer of all time would have to be Randall Cunningham. That dude was dead on the money for every throw he did. It was unfortunate that he was made of glass and one tackle ended his season.... but still... that dude how an amazing arm.
Not to mention the NFL is a copy cat league. If it's all about the system why haven't other teams and qb's been able to duplicate what he has?
Why doesn't other chess players play like bobby fisher? Why doesnt physicists explain relativity like Einstein did?
They can't copy a system because Belichick is the system. Belichick is the man that makes it all work in NE. Proof in point, when Brady was injured, Cassel filled in nicely. I'll give you that Cassel wasnt as good as running Belichick system as Brady was, But Cassel also isnt as athletically gifted as Brady is.
If you think Brady is the most accurate QB ever, then you havent been watching football for that long. How many QB challenges did Brady win? Answer- ZERO. I think the most accurate passer of all time would have to be Randall Cunningham. That dude was dead on the money for every throw he did. It was unfortunate that he was made of glass and one tackle ended his season.... but still... that dude how an amazing arm.
A QB challenge? Really? lol c'mon wake you're trollin bad man. Randall Cunningham? Really? Not to mention belichick doesnt even have much to do with the offense, like I said. It was Charlie Weis, Josh McDaniels, Bill O'Brien, and others. Belichick has input, but he is far more know as a defensive coach then an offensive coach. Most everyone who watches football knows this.
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lol, but the nigga Reid has recently lost some lbs.
No Trolling though. And I don't know what there is to debate. I have my opinion and you can have yours...
When I watch Brady play, I don't see him making a lot of decisions on his own. And when he is forced to make a decision on his own it seemed to end up bad more often then not. I see Brady as a great athlete, with a great arm, that is almost flawless in running the plays that Belichick called.
Payton on the other hand is leading the whole offense. His coach doesnt call shit. He gets up to the line, see's how things looks, mixes up the play and then executes his offense. Payton Manning is the greatest QB to ever play the game. Not only is he athletic, has a fantastic arm, but is the brains behind the colts entire offense.
I don't see how anyone could compare Manning to Brady. Manning is a much better QB simply because he is running his offense where Brady is just taking orders.
I agree Brady has a great arm and is a good athletic talent. I don't think he does much besides what Belichick tells him to do, and for that he will always be lower then QB's that are actual leaders. Payton Maning, Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Joe Namath, etc... these guys are/were leaders where Brady is not. When I look at NE's superbowls I think "proof positive that Belichick is one of the greatest coaches to ever call a game"
Not to mention the NFL is a copy cat league. If it's all about the system why haven't other teams and qb's been able to duplicate what he has? Also Brady does call most of his own plays during the game like Manning does, and I don't believe Belichick even has a ton to do with the offensive plays. That's between Brady and the O-coordinator.
They can't copy a system because Belichick is the system. Belichick is the man that makes it all work in NE. Proof in point, when Brady was injured, Cassel filled in nicely. I'll give you that Cassel wasnt as good as running Belichick system as Brady was, But Cassel also isnt as athletically gifted as Brady is.
If you think Brady is the most accurate QB ever, then you havent been watching football for that long. How many QB challenges did Brady win? Answer- ZERO. I think the most accurate passer of all time would have to be Randall Cunningham. That dude was dead on the money for every throw he did. It was unfortunate that he was made of glass and one tackle ended his season.... but still... that dude how an amazing arm.