I was gonna post your shit to compare it to but nothing comes up on YouTube for "episode 95" but weird foreign tv shows )
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The shit you'd use in comparison is shit that I admit is garbage. All traces of The Pilot are off the internet. My new shit shits on his but most of it's not out yet. Of course you or anyone on this board wouldn't agree cause it's not lyrical corny shit which seems to be the only Hip Hop Metalheads like for some reason.
But at the same time it's 2 completely different ballparks. I barely rap anymore and when I do it's sing-rapping not straight bars. But most of my shit is straight up singing PBRnB shit.
So you wrote about something other than yourself or bitches?
Post it.
This is why you can't talk Hip Hop wit Metalheads lmfao. Why can't y'all accept that every artist don't needa be some deep ass poet who delivers emotional heart jabbers? People like to have fun. I personally don't write like that cause I can't stand listening to it. I hate Eminem for instance. I'm all about sound, vibe, and aesthetic. My favorite rapper Travi$ Scott for instance, he ain't lyrical at all. He's never once dropped a line that made me say holy shit. But what he does do is deliver a top notch atmosphere and setting that locks you into the scene. THAT'S my goal. I'm not much of a lyricist either, but I'm damn sure an ARTIST. And no the 2 ain't necessarily intertwined.
My biggest complaint about the song you posted when you got back was it seemed over produced. The vocals seemed somehow tweeked and muddled with effects or something. Its my opinion that if your gonna sing then you should sing. Make it front and center, and fucking go for it without holding something back. Of your gonna sing for somebody, fucking steal that shit. Best example that come to mind of going all in while singing is Freddie Mercury. You can't sing his shit without going for it.
"This is why you can't talk hip hop with metalheads"
You do know there's more things to sing about other than bitches, drugs, and ballin' right? And if I'm listening to something for atmosphere, I prefer it to be lyric free
My biggest complaint about the song you posted when you got back was it seemed over produced. The vocals seemed somehow tweeked and muddled with effects or something. Its my opinion that if your gonna sing then you should sing. Make it front and center, and fucking go for it without holding something back. Of your gonna sing for somebody, fucking steal that shit. Best example that come to mind of going all in while singing is Freddie Mercury. You can't sing his shit without going for it.
That was intentional. I've been using backing vocoders under my vocals and it's honestly becoming a part of my sound, I use it a lot. Even the auto tune, it's not cause I can't sing, but it's for aesthetic and to achieve a certain sound. The non-auto tuned vocals simply didn't sound as good. Not because I couldn't hit them, but because it simply didn't fit the track as well. Too "clean" I suppose. Or simple. Auto tune to me makes your voice more instrumental as more of another layer on top of the production. Besides that, the track you're talkin bout ain't even full blown singing. It was pretty much all rappin wit some sing-rappin bars thrown in.
So you wrote about something other than yourself or bitches?
Post it.
This is why you can't talk Hip Hop wit Metalheads lmfao. Why can't y'all accept that every artist don't needa be some deep ass poet who delivers emotional heart jabbers? People like to have fun. I personally don't write like that cause I can't stand listening to it. I hate Eminem for instance. I'm all about sound, vibe, and aesthetic. My favorite rapper Travi$ Scott for instance, he ain't lyrical at all. He's never once dropped a line that made me say holy shit. But what he does do is deliver a top notch atmosphere and setting that locks you into the scene. THAT'S my goal. I'm not much of a lyricist either, but I'm damn sure an ARTIST. And no the 2 ain't necessarily intertwined.
How funny you say can't talk to metal heads. This is almost as oblivious as the Tyson quote. Anything we say to you is written of as dick riding and hating. You're not exactly know for being open to conversation.
So you don't like Prozaks music... It's terrible, corny ICP levels, whatever else tend to say about things you don't like, you shit on it all and try to diminish it.
If I don't like your shit, I just say it's not my style. I can still have an open discussion about it (this part was good, didn't like this, would have liked this better) etc. You don't have to shit on things you don't like just to shit on them.
Honestly, I don't expect much depth from your music yet. It will probably come with time and more life experiences. At this point I think as long as your working on all the technical aspects and really learn your craft and stick with it, you can make something of it. It's going to be in your own best interests to learn not to shit everywhere on people. That type of behavior has a way of coming back to bite your ass.
"This is why you can't talk hip hop with metalheads"
You do know there's more things to sing about other than bitches, drugs, and ballin' right? And if I'm listening to something for atmosphere, I prefer it to be lyric free
Yes but drugs bitches and ballin appeal to me. Preachy bullshit don't. I listen to music to turn up and feel good, not to be depressed cause dude is delivering some deep ass lyrical spiritual bullshit about world issues. Then there's artists I love like Drake who write on serious matters like love and relationships, but it's delivered in a fun and innovative (In terms of sound and vibe) way. Plus it's like yall scold me for it, but I write about what I live. I'm 19 and generally pretty happy wit life. And these days that includes drugs and bitches, whether yall believe that or not. I have nothing I'm goin thru or anything to reflect on to write about. See the way yall work, you'd want me to write about somethin like my Dad not bein there, but it's somethin that no longer bothers me and even if it did, I wouldn't write about it, cause like I said, I hate shit like that in OTHERS' music, so I definitely wouldn't put it in mine. My whole sound and image is drug music. I strive for trippy shit that you wanna get high to, and shit that makes you feel high regardless. I'm completely about sound and the overall package, not deep subject or crazy lyricism. I'm not tryna serve anything more than pure entertainment. Not life lessons.
I was gonna quote all that, talk shit about it and insert a pic. I took a deep breath and googled "explosive shits" and hit images. I started scrolling down, looking for the perfect explosive shit pic, and half way down was this...
So you wrote about something other than yourself or bitches?
Post it.
This is why you can't talk Hip Hop wit Metalheads lmfao. Why can't y'all accept that every artist don't needa be some deep ass poet who delivers emotional heart jabbers? People like to have fun. I personally don't write like that cause I can't stand listening to it. I hate Eminem for instance. I'm all about sound, vibe, and aesthetic. My favorite rapper Travi$ Scott for instance, he ain't lyrical at all. He's never once dropped a line that made me say holy shit. But what he does do is deliver a top notch atmosphere and setting that locks you into the scene. THAT'S my goal. I'm not much of a lyricist either, but I'm damn sure an ARTIST. And no the 2 ain't necessarily intertwined.
How funny you say can't talk to metal heads. This is almost as oblivious as the Tyson quote. Anything we say to you is written of as dick riding and hating. You're not exactly know for being open to conversation.
So you don't like Prozaks music... It's terrible, corny ICP levels, whatever else tend to say about things you don't like, you shit on it all and try to diminish it.
If I don't like your shit, I just say it's not my style. I can still have an open discussion about it (this part was good, didn't like this, would have liked this better) etc. You don't have to shit on things you don't like just to shit on them.
Honestly, I don't expect much depth from your music yet. It will probably come with time and more life experiences. At this point I think as long as your working on all the technical aspects and really learn your craft and stick with it, you can make something of it. It's going to be in your own best interests to learn not to shit everywhere on people. That type of behavior has a way of coming back to bite your ass.
Where did I say I was getting my dick ridden? I said what I said cause it's true. The general consensus from Metalheads about Hip Hop seems to be "It's all trash because they don't deliver serious meaningful subject matter." So it could be somethin they might genuinely like after givin it a chance but "Nope, it's about money and bitches, not serious or depressing enough for me, music can't be fun." And believe me I get it, comin from a genre who lyrically takes itself way too seriously, which becomes the norm for you.
As for Prozak, I simply stated my opinion. I know you're gonna take it more personally cause he's your friend, but I gave him the same treatment I would to any artist I don't like. He's got that same corny ass sound and aesthetic that makes me hate Tech N9ne, Hopsin, and pretty much all of Strange Music. That realm of Hip Hop is so fuckin lame to me and there's a reason their fan bases are 99% white kids and they play shows wit Metal bands. (Hopsin did jus recently, if I remember correctly it was wit KoRn and Limp Bizkit.) It's a completely different scene from the rest of Hip Hop and I don't fuck wit it at all. On top of that he's white and he fits into "Most white Rappers are too fuckin corny.". The only ones I like right now are Caskey and Mac Miller since he dropped that corny ass frat boy image and he's on some grimy druggy shit now. Lil Dicky's nice too cause he knows he's a nerdy ass white kid and so that's his aesthetic and he makes music that's funny and almost a self parody. Either way, maybe it's negative, but there you go, I gave you specific reasons I don't like his music. Can't stand his voice either and those hooks were cringe inducing.
For reference, I absolutely fuckin hate Odd Future now. I think they're one of the corniest piles of shit to ever happen to Hip Hop. And we all know my former feelings. My feelings on music have completely changed and I think it's more so because I listen completely wit an artist's ear now rather than a fan.
Also, people look for lyrics they can connect and identify with. It was fun listening to stuff about drugs, getting laid, ballin, etc when I was a teenager. But not so much now. I get bored with those lyrics awfully quick. I sometimes can look passed that if I like the music enough.
You missed my point. I don't care that you don't like it, nor does it matter that he is my friend.
Also, he isnt white )
As a person who is trying to establish himself in the music community, it would serve you better just to say "it's not my style" than to tear down other people in the music community who have established themselves more than you have. It makes you look hateful and bitter. In general, those people are still your peers, and they also have connections and established networks of labels, studios, venues etc. Those can work for you or against you. Respect that. It's fine if that your opinion, but use it as fuel to push yourself more. If they are as bad as you say they are, prove you're better with your music instead of burning potential bridges.
Well after losing 80 pounds in 2012, I got freight trained by life and depression and gained every last pounder back plus a couple for the fuck of it. It was significantly harder to reach this point the second time around but think I'm on the right track again. Every time I tried I would have little cracks in my system that kept me from being hard on myself from eating habits to working out that would eventually shatter everything. I'm back in the frame of mind where I can't fuck up or slip and be easy and rationalize shit for myself.
This got lost in the conversation but I wanted to say good job Chuck. It's all about little choices here and there. You don't have to do it all at once. Keep it up.
Also, people look for lyrics they can connect and identify with. It was fun listening to stuff about drugs, getting laid, ballin, etc when I was a teenager. But not so much now. I get bored with those lyrics awfully quick. I sometimes can look passed that if I like the music enough.
Again tho, I don't really care about the subject or lyrics. Like it's literally lowest priority for me in music. So that's jus a difference of opinion and priorities, but for me I feel like I've developed a producer's ear, give me fire production and do somethin dope as fuck wit your voice on top of it and truly create a complete "package" and I don't really give a shit what your lyrics are. The thing is, is these dudes who generally deliver deep ass subjects and insane lyricism are kinda synonymous wit boring and or corny music. Cause they're too focused on what they're saying instead of HOW they're saying it. They don't create a "vibe" for me. Jus exactly what it is, a dude showcasing his skills on top of a beat. The dopest artists in the game right now say less and that's jus how it is. The only artist in recent memory who's successfully done both is Kendrick but he dropped the ball on To Pimp A Butterfly. Did it to perfection on Section.80 and Good Kid Maad City tho.
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You do know there's more things to sing about other than bitches, drugs, and ballin' right? And if I'm listening to something for atmosphere, I prefer it to be lyric free
That was intentional. I've been using backing vocoders under my vocals and it's honestly becoming a part of my sound, I use it a lot. Even the auto tune, it's not cause I can't sing, but it's for aesthetic and to achieve a certain sound. The non-auto tuned vocals simply didn't sound as good. Not because I couldn't hit them, but because it simply didn't fit the track as well. Too "clean" I suppose. Or simple. Auto tune to me makes your voice more instrumental as more of another layer on top of the production. Besides that, the track you're talkin bout ain't even full blown singing. It was pretty much all rappin wit some sing-rappin bars thrown in.
WTF?
As for Prozak, I simply stated my opinion. I know you're gonna take it more personally cause he's your friend, but I gave him the same treatment I would to any artist I don't like. He's got that same corny ass sound and aesthetic that makes me hate Tech N9ne, Hopsin, and pretty much all of Strange Music. That realm of Hip Hop is so fuckin lame to me and there's a reason their fan bases are 99% white kids and they play shows wit Metal bands. (Hopsin did jus recently, if I remember correctly it was wit KoRn and Limp Bizkit.) It's a completely different scene from the rest of Hip Hop and I don't fuck wit it at all. On top of that he's white and he fits into "Most white Rappers are too fuckin corny.". The only ones I like right now are Caskey and Mac Miller since he dropped that corny ass frat boy image and he's on some grimy druggy shit now. Lil Dicky's nice too cause he knows he's a nerdy ass white kid and so that's his aesthetic and he makes music that's funny and almost a self parody. Either way, maybe it's negative, but there you go, I gave you specific reasons I don't like his music. Can't stand his voice either and those hooks were cringe inducing.
Also, he isnt white
As a person who is trying to establish himself in the music community, it would serve you better just to say "it's not my style" than to tear down other people in the music community who have established themselves more than you have. It makes you look hateful and bitter. In general, those people are still your peers, and they also have connections and established networks of labels, studios, venues etc. Those can work for you or against you. Respect that. It's fine if that your opinion, but use it as fuel to push yourself more. If they are as bad as you say they are, prove you're better with your music instead of burning potential bridges.
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