so if the US, Italy or anyone else wont do anything of substance against the Vatican for this bullshit, what else is there to do? do we just raise awareness and make people understand what exactly is going on?
uhm we invaded the middle east because of what they did partly for their 'religion', why is this any different?
Because they're Catholic. Catholicism and Christianity are the two most popular religions in the U.S. so we consider them our allies. We support that religion.
we also support, if not support, deff 'look the other way', child molestation apparently
We just don't give a shit. That's the problem because our country is greatly associated with that religion. We market that shit every day.
regardless of what religion who follows, no one can deny that this is wrong! its just human decency tto not condone this
so if the US, Italy or anyone else wont do anything of substance against the Vatican for this bullshit, what else is there to do? do we just raise awareness and make people understand what exactly is going on?
That's one way of doing it yes. We'd have to make people see the hypocrisy of the Vatican. Especially Catholics.
so if the US, Italy or anyone else wont do anything of substance against the Vatican for this bullshit, what else is there to do? do we just raise awareness and make people understand what exactly is going on?
So here are are two things you could do.
1. Try to investigate. 2. Not have the investigators be allowed to question priests in the seminary or be allowed into the Vatican. 3. Strike out.
1. Attempt to indict church officials outside of the vatican with obstruction of justice or issue subpoenas. 2. Enrage the Catholic majority in Italy, Mexico, etc. Where the Church has broad support. 3. Lose voting power 4. Strike out.
You literally just confirmed my point Wine. All you did word it differently. So thank you for agreeing with me. I can admit my statement was a little vague. But your last part of your statement was ultimately what I meant.
My reasons had absolutely nothing to do with business, corruption or lobbying. Don't really see how you think I confirmed that.
The essential idea we agree upon. Like I said mine was worded differently and I was referring mostly to the corruption of religion in American politics. 1 billion worshipers would go ape shit for invading the Vatican, especially this country because we promote it everyday. That's what I was saying you confirmed what I had stated. Which was the essential idea.
uhm we invaded the middle east because of what they did partly for their 'religion', why is this any different?
Because they're Catholic. Catholicism and Christianity are the two most popular religions in the U.S. so we consider them our allies. We support that religion.
we also support, if not support, deff 'look the other way', child molestation apparently
We just don't give a shit. That's the problem because our country is greatly associated with that religion. We market that shit every day.
regardless of what religion who follows, no one can deny that this is wrong! its just human decency tto not condone this
It's a simple thing called denial. Most people who support any faith or idea, will not look into the cons or negative arguments from one's belief. It's basic human psychology. You can even show them the evidence face front and they can still deny it for the sake of pride, and shock.
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It's not necessarily politics, its the voter base, and politicians appeal to the voter base. Since there are religious voters, there will be politicians who try to appeal to those voters.
theyd go apeshit for invading the Vatican but not for what the Vatican is doing? somethings wrong here
Yeah. Something is wrong. The Catholic church is struggling with it, but it's not nearly as bad as it could be. It's not really about people like us who have 0 part in the controversy, it's about people who had part in the controversy that need to be more opponent. ie victims, former church officials, etc.
whats funny is that the guy who brought religion into the election didnt win
That really doesn't make a difference. Obama is a Christian. And he won. People here don't really like Mormons, and also he didn't promote his faith as much as Romney did. Overall Romney was just the shittiest candidate for the right wing.
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its just human decency tto not condone this
1. Try to investigate.
2. Not have the investigators be allowed to question priests in the seminary or be allowed into the Vatican.
3. Strike out.
1. Attempt to indict church officials outside of the vatican with obstruction of justice or issue subpoenas.
2. Enrage the Catholic majority in Italy, Mexico, etc. Where the Church has broad support.
3. Lose voting power
4. Strike out.
somethings wrong here
Amon Amarath
Gothenburg bands (I know they're Swedish)
those would be all we'd need lol.