This is a response i got from Junior. Hes a guy who has worked in the gig business forever, and had been what i believe is Tool's lighting director for a number of years.
I had told him that i hoped he would be able to start doing gigs again as i know a lot of these people have been out of work forever, and i thought his response was pretty interesting about some of the logistics of everyone trying to tour. Thought this was a good thread for it lol.
I think once the full go-ahead for the industry happens, there will be an overload of tours trying to go out right away. The downside to that is that there are finite places to play and finite amounts of lighting, sound, trucks, busses, and personnel to do all of those tours. There are organizations that have been meeting for months (in the US the Touring Professionals Alliance is one of them that was formed just for this reason) and trying to figure out a unified front of sorts for how to proceed safely and sanely once it becomes possible. Any small outbreak of covid on a tour would grind that tour to a halt, and there's too much at stake to risk that. Once a tour starts rolling it needs to keep rolling efficiently or a lot of money starts to get lost. So vaccines are going to be key, but there doesn't seem to be any way to require it at the moment. Even harder to control is the interaction with local crew/building staff. I think we'll be seeing states and cities that won't get on board with safety protocols start getting skipped over by tours that don't feel safe going there.
That said, I don't know when Tool will resume touring. It'll happen at some point, but I don't think they'll be among the very first to go out. Hopefully not much longer, though.
i hadn't put any thought into the finite amount of busses/personal at all.
Yeah that's a good point. I guess I also don't think about the number of available venues being an issue either. This'll be pretty interesting to see how it all rolls out.
Yo I actually feel bad for Limp Bizkit and Journey lmao. At Lolla, there’s 4 main headliners each night. The 2 biggest names play at each big stage, at complete opposite ends of the festival grounds. The smaller 2 perform at smaller stages in between. But all 4 play at the same time. The 4 names in big letters each day are obviously the 4 headliners. This means Journey and Limp Bizkit are playing at the same time as Post Malone and Megan Thee Stallion to end the night.
Literally fucking nobody is gonna be at their sets lmfao. Not wit Lolla’s crowd.
Wait, all FOUR headliners playing all at once?! What the fuck. Yeah no way I'd be down for that lol I'm sure it's fun but good lord.
Also, don't feel bad for Journey. Honestly I have no idea how the current version of them can be listed that high. They should be thankful.
Yea it’s always been done like that. For the most part, it’s never really an issue. All 4 are generally different genres and pull their own crowds. But what they did for Friday this year is absolutely fucking retarded. Tyler, The Creator, Jack Harlow, and Roddy Ricch are all playing at the same time. Yea let’s take 3 rappers who are all currently poppin, especially Jack Harlow and Roddy Ricch, and have them perform at the exact same time, even tho they prolly all share the same fanbase. Genius fucking idea. I still have no clue who I’ll see that night. Definitely between Jack and Roddy cause I’ve seen Tyler multiple times.
Hahahahaha a Metal show at Concord that’ll be a fucking joke. Place is a fucking dump wit the worst security of all time. Literally seen them chase mfs down and tackle them for moshing at an EDM show, they’ll burst a fucking blood vessel at a Metal show.
Hahahahaha a Metal show at Concord that’ll be a fucking joke. Place is a fucking dump wit the worst security of all time. Literally seen them chase mfs down and tackle them for moshing at an EDM show, they’ll burst a fucking blood vessel at a Metal show.
They have metal shows there all the time. Its actually a really good venue for metal. Saw a Summer Slaughter there, and Alestorm there. Much fun.
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I had told him that i hoped he would be able to start doing gigs again as i know a lot of these people have been out of work forever, and i thought his response was pretty interesting about some of the logistics of everyone trying to tour. Thought this was a good thread for it lol.
I think once the full go-ahead for the industry happens, there will be an overload of tours trying to go out right away. The downside to that is that there are finite places to play and finite amounts of lighting, sound, trucks, busses, and personnel to do all of those tours.
There are organizations that have been meeting for months (in the US the Touring Professionals Alliance is one of them that was formed just for this reason) and trying to figure out a unified front of sorts for how to proceed safely and sanely once it becomes possible. Any small outbreak of covid on a tour would grind that tour to a halt, and there's too much at stake to risk that. Once a tour starts rolling it needs to keep rolling efficiently or a lot of money starts to get lost. So vaccines are going to be key, but there doesn't seem to be any way to require it at the moment. Even harder to control is the interaction with local crew/building staff. I think we'll be seeing states and cities that won't get on board with safety protocols start getting skipped over by tours that don't feel safe going there.
That said, I don't know when Tool will resume touring. It'll happen at some point, but I don't think they'll be among the very first to go out. Hopefully not much longer, though.
Literally fucking nobody is gonna be at their sets lmfao. Not wit Lolla’s crowd.
Also, don't feel bad for Journey. Honestly I have no idea how the current version of them can be listed that high. They should be thankful.
Idk how they are even going to hire security lol. But yeah, expect places to be different.
Hopefully we'll get a booking soon.