Groove metal bands tend to play mid-tempo thrash riffs focusing on heaviness and groovy syncopation. [2][6] Guitarists generally play low syncopated power chord patterns and mid-paced guitar solos, and occasionally use heavy palm muting. The tone is typically described as thick and mid-scooped down with boosted bass and trebles, usually under a harsh distortion. Solid state amplifiers using transistors are commonly used to gain this asymmetrical harmonic clipping sound, although tube amps are used sometimes as well. Like most other heavy metal bass styles, groove metal bass lines typically follow the rhythm guitar riffs but are sometimes used as introduction to a guitar riff or as intermezzi when the guitar riffs are de-emphasized. The use of bass distortion is common. Vocals usually consist of thrash metal-styled shouts, hardcore-styled barks, and clean singing. Groove metal drums typically use double-bass drumming, with emphasis on using the double bass drum in waves. Uncommon time signatures and polyrhythms are typical for some bands; generally these bands put heavy emphasis on the changing beat. Groove metal typically follows in a medium tempo, [2] but can vary from band to band or song to song.
hear so much Pantera in Slaughter in the Vatican it's ridiculous. Phil was an Exhorder fan, and made some tribute music. Cowboys From Hell and Slaughter in the Vatican are very very similar albums, but all the material on Slaughter is older than Cowboys.
Yes phil is a big exhorder fan but i listen to exhorder and pantera alot and dont hear it at all....the exhorder singer sings very thrashy as to say he doesnt change his voice alot, he sings pretty much the same way the whole song/album. Phil switches his voice all the time, sometimes high pitch yells, sometimes low pitch growls etc.
but you have been talking about phil this whole time. Well i think that pantera's music is alot more dynamic as well, Dimebag switches it up alot in his songs were exhorder doesnt. Exhorder is straight up thrash to me, I listen to slaughter of the vatican and all i hear is thrash, no down tuned breakdowns, no high pitch guitar squeels, just thrash.
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I hear the same things in Exhorder's music, and while they are lesser in quantity in Slaughter in the Vatican, they are certainly prevalent in The Law. If any of the material in The Law is as old as Slaughter is, the argument is fucked. The foundation of Slaughter is thrash, but the groove metal elements are also very evident. What Pantera did was take the logical evolution of Exhorder's music and called it their own.
This argument is neverending, so I would like to end it here, or after your response. I would also like to say though, after reading that wikipedia stuff you just posted, I could hear Exhorder playing the whole time.
Vocals usually consist of thrash metal-styled shouts, hardcore-styled barks, and clean singing. In pantera yes it does, in exhorder he has the same voice the entire time aka thrash metal shouts...
Groove metal drums typically use double-bass drumming, with emphasis on using the double bass drum in waves. This is more common in exhorder i think, i dont know much about drums but i hear the double bass way more in exhorder than pantera.
Uncommon time signatures and polyrhythms are typical for some bands; generally these bands put heavy emphasis on the changing beat. Groove metal typically follows in a medium tempo, [2] but can vary from band to band or song to song. This is probably the only place where u can say they are similar because both bands do this.
I hear some similarities but to say pantera is an exhoreder rip off is a rediculous statement and is meant to just upset pantera fans like me, even though i love both bands...
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Groove metal bands tend to play mid-tempo thrash riffs focusing on heaviness and groovy syncopation. [2][6] Guitarists generally play low syncopated power chord patterns and mid-paced guitar solos, and occasionally use heavy palm muting.
The tone is typically described as thick and mid-scooped down with boosted bass and trebles, usually under a harsh distortion. Solid state amplifiers using transistors are commonly used to gain this asymmetrical harmonic clipping sound, although tube amps are used sometimes as well. Like most other heavy metal bass styles, groove metal bass lines typically follow the rhythm guitar riffs but are sometimes used as introduction to a guitar riff or as intermezzi when the guitar riffs are de-emphasized. The use of bass distortion is common.
Vocals usually consist of thrash metal-styled shouts, hardcore-styled barks, and clean singing. Groove metal drums typically use double-bass drumming, with emphasis on using the double bass drum in waves. Uncommon time signatures and polyrhythms are typical for some bands; generally these bands put heavy emphasis on the changing beat. Groove metal typically follows in a medium tempo, [2] but can vary from band to band or song to song.
Yes phil is a big exhorder fan but i listen to exhorder and pantera alot and dont hear it at all....the exhorder singer sings very thrashy as to say he doesnt change his voice alot, he sings pretty much the same way the whole song/album. Phil switches his voice all the time, sometimes high pitch yells, sometimes low pitch growls etc.
Well i think that pantera's music is alot more dynamic as well, Dimebag switches it up alot in his songs were exhorder doesnt. Exhorder is straight up thrash to me, I listen to slaughter of the vatican and all i hear is thrash, no down tuned breakdowns, no high pitch guitar squeels, just thrash.
This argument is neverending, so I would like to end it here, or after your response. I would also like to say though, after reading that wikipedia stuff you just posted, I could hear Exhorder playing the whole time.
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Vocals usually consist of thrash metal-styled shouts, hardcore-styled barks, and clean singing.
In pantera yes it does, in exhorder he has the same voice the entire time aka thrash metal shouts...
Groove metal drums typically use double-bass drumming, with emphasis on using the double bass drum in waves.
This is more common in exhorder i think, i dont know much about drums but i hear the double bass way more in exhorder than pantera.
Uncommon time signatures and polyrhythms are typical for some bands; generally these bands put heavy emphasis on the changing beat. Groove metal typically follows in a medium tempo, [2] but can vary from band to band or song to song.
This is probably the only place where u can say they are similar because both bands do this.
I hear some similarities but to say pantera is an exhoreder rip off is a rediculous statement and is meant to just upset pantera fans like me, even though i love both bands...
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