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so, this showed up in my email today...

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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    ive just never seen an instance where random ass people sign a petition online and then that actually changes something...show me some examples and maybe i will actually sign
  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
    The Trayvon Martin incident became national after petitions began to be posted on change.org.
    Apple changed their policies regarding workers in China, after large amounts of pressure, partially from change.org.
    Hell, there even was a petition for stopping the late closing hours at my university, and it worked...kinda.

    I think there's some things worth it, but I don't really participate much.
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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    you say due to change.org, now i know a well managed site can make a difference but was it speciffically the petitions that actually caused that chain of events?
  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,041 master of ceremonies
    Change.org is a website dedicated to petitions...
  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
    I mean, no, because they probably didn't. But it's contributing to a number that creates a lot of political pressure.

    I'm no change.org lover myself, but I think it's a pretty interesting site that can contribute.
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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    i just find it hard to believe that an internet petition can be taken so seriously, how do they test the signatures legitimacy? for instance how do we know someone didnt just set up the coding to put peoples names in randomly or set up bot names and shit like that.. this interests me alot i should do some research
  • ZmbieFlavrdCupcakesZmbieFlavrdCupcakes Posts: 32,259 jayfacer
    a change.org petition stopped Urban Decay to stop selling in China
    i always get updates from there when they change laws
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  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
    i just find it hard to believe that an internet petition can be taken so seriously, how do they test the signatures legitimacy? for instance how do we know someone didnt just set up the coding to put peoples names in randomly or set up bot names and shit like that.. this interests me alot i should do some research
    I don't think they do, it's more of a gauging tool, it's not about having an ultimately awesome petition, it's about showing support.

    I'm pretty sure they have safeguards in there to stop against bots, etc. though.
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  • SATANSATAN Posts: 25,866 spicy boy
    i have a close friend who was molested by her father, who was an mp. when he left the military, all records of what he had done were sealed. he is in prison now because he attempted to strangle his second wife.
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    I have an ex gf whose MP father told his best friend to go rape his daughter. The friend did, and when my ex told her father that his friend violently raped her, he laughed and said "lol. Yeah I know. I told him to do it". That's the day she ran away from home.
  • TortureQueenTortureQueen Posts: 805 just the tip
    I have an ex gf whose MP father told his best friend to go rape his daughter. The friend did, and when my ex told her father that his friend violently raped her, he laughed and said "lol. Yeah I know. I told him to do it". That's the day she ran away from home.
    well that's fucked up. i don't believe that all the cases that come through are legit, without phyiscal evidence of the attack there is no proof, makes someone wonder if it truly is a rape or later down the road chic decided that she didn't like him so much or got pissd off and next thing you know they are yelling rape and unfortunately for those guys in this boat they are usually charged for something that was actually consentual
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    well that's fucked up.
    Yeah... that was the day I learned that no matter how bad you think you had it, there's someone whose lived through worse.
  • ...... Posts: 31,548 master of ceremonies
    I just got this email.
    inb4lists
  • ShaneShane Posts: 15,229 balls deep
    I have an ex gf whose MP father told his best friend to go rape his daughter. The friend did, and when my ex told her father that his friend violently raped her, he laughed and said "lol. Yeah I know. I told him to do it". That's the day she ran away from home.
    well that's fucked up. i don't believe that all the cases that come through are legit, without phyiscal evidence of the attack there is no proof, makes someone wonder if it truly is a rape or later down the road chic decided that she didn't like him so much or got pissd off and next thing you know they are yelling rape and unfortunately for those guys in this boat they are usually charged for something that was actually consentual
    the girls who do this fuck it up for the women who actually got raped. the boy who cried wolf effect.
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    they should have to take polygraphs
  • ShaneShane Posts: 15,229 balls deep
    they should have to take polygraphs
    they are inadmissible in court though. My Idea would be an automatic, no chance of parole, 10 years in prison for any women found to be using rape accusations as weapon to ruin someones life.
  • mrAPEmrAPE Posts: 39,476 moneytalker
    This discussion made me think about a somewhat related subject I was having a conversation with co workers about.

    Women and teenagers have way too much power some times. I always thought it would be cool to be a history teacher but then I think why would I put myself at risk with little reward. What I am talking about is when I was in high school these kids were little shits especially the girls that would get butthurt. Just when I was in school for four years I saw two male teachers fired just because a female student made up something about them because they didn't like them. Say you give a student a bad grade or just happen to piss them off somehow, you know by doing your job. If the student were to say anything true or not that relates to you and the student in a sexual manner you're gone and your name is mudd in the field you got a degree in.
    You tryin to be a hero fool? You wanna see badass mother fucker?! I'll show ya a badass!!!
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