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White House, experts dismiss Iran naval threat to U.S. coast

XenoXeno Posts: 21,031 master of ceremonies
edited September 2011 in Off Topic
(CNN) -- The White House on Wednesday dismissed an Iranian threat to deploy warships near the U.S. coast, and military experts said Iran lacks the naval capability to do so.
Overnight Tuesday, Iranian state news quoted a commander as saying his country plans to have a "powerful presence" near the U.S. border.
In response, White House spokesman Jay Carney said that "we don't take these statements seriously, given that they do not reflect at all Iran's naval capabilities."
Pentagon spokesman George Little echoed Carney's point, saying Iran has the right to send vessels into international waters, but "whether they can truly project naval power beyond the region is another question."
"I wouldn't read too much into what came out of Iran today," Little said, adding: "I think what is said and what is actually done can be two different things."
State-run Press TV in Iran said similar plans were announced in July. However, no Iranian warships ever deployed. In February, two Iranian navy vessels traversed the Suez Canal in the first such voyage by Iranian ships since 1979.
Richard Herrmann, director of the Mershon Center for International Security Studies at The Ohio State University, said Iran's navy is too small with too miniscule a budget to remain for long off the U.S. coast.
"This is hard to take seriously, because Iran's navy is very small. This force, whatever it may be, is going to be puny, especially compared to the U.S. Navy," said Herrmann, who specializes in the use of imagery and posturing in international conflicts. "Iran doesn't have the capability to come within close proximity to (the United States) to conduct hostile activities. Even if (Iran) launched missiles, we would sink their ships immediately."
Iran lacks battleships or aircraft carriers. Its forces are capable of patrolling the Persian Gulf and sailing a short distance in the Indian Ocean, Herrmann said, but keeping ships stationed near the United States, so far from Iran, would be too expensive for the government.
"They would need a place to resupply, refuel, restock crews with food and water. They couldn't afford that unless they got help," Herrmann said. "I would imagine they could get help from somewhere in South America, maybe Venezuela."
Venezuela and Iran are allied by their anti-U.S. sentiments.
Michael Connell, the director of the Iranian studies program at CNA, a Washington-area think tank that specializes in naval analyses, agreed with Herrmann.
"Their navy can't reach our coastline right now," Connell said, describing the Iranian announcement as "bombastic rhetoric."
"It's posturing" by Iran intended for both its domestic and regional audience, Connell said. Making such pronouncements projects a dominant role including naval power, whether or not they can back it up, he added.
"The Iranians have been historically annoyed that we have a naval presence in the Persian Gulf, which is kind of their backyard," Connell said.
The worst move the United States could make now would be to overreact, said John Mueller, the Woody Hayes chair of national security studies at Mershon.
"Hopefully this won't play into (American) neo-cons who are itching for a war with Iran," he said. "The best thing to do is ignore it and treat it with the contempt it deserves. If Iran wants to waste their time and money on a dwindling supply of fuel (to keep ships) bobbing around in the Atlantic Ocean, then let them."
The idea of Iran moving ships near the U.S. coast is not on par with the Soviet Union flying planes off the coast of Alaska during the Cold War, Mueller noted. The Soviets' move was legal, and was considered a gesture intended to irritate the United States, he said.
"Those were different circumstances and different players," Mueller added.
Herrmann cautioned that while moving ships near the U.S. coast may not be a real threat, Iran is certainly capable of harming the United States -- but closer to Iran.
Iran could attack U.S. ships in the Strait of Hormuz, a waterway between the Gulf of Oman and the Persian Gulf, on the south coast of Iran. Such attacks could disrupt oil markets and scare American tourists, Herrmann said.
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  • KridesBrideBrittKridesBrideBritt Posts: 25,781 jayfacer
    *doesn't trust government. Notes in special notebook not to go to the beach*
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  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,031 master of ceremonies
    *goes to beach, sees warships, decides it's a movie day*
  • KridesBrideBrittKridesBrideBritt Posts: 25,781 jayfacer
    *convinces the guidos to go to the beach on warship day to work on their tans. Sits in apartment, pleasantly pale and without guidos.*
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  • ShaneShane Posts: 15,229 balls deep
    Iran is not a threat to the US, its war propaganda.

    They have not attacked anyone in over 200 years, they have no air force to speak of and can barley provide enough food and gasoline for themselves.
  • GazorpazorpfieldGazorpazorpfield Posts: 22,293 master of ceremonies
    edited September 2011
    *jerks off on the beach while looking at warships*
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  • TravisTravis Posts: 4,971 balls deep
    Iran is not a threat to the US, its war propaganda.

    They have not attacked anyone in over 200 years, they have no air force to speak of and can barley provide enough food and gasoline for themselves.
    Obama will get called weak unless he blows something up over this....
  • XenoXeno Posts: 21,031 master of ceremonies
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  • streetsstreets Posts: 3,351 just the tip
    *is going to the beach in a week* :-w
  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Iran is not a threat to the US, its war propaganda.

    They have not attacked anyone in over 200 years, they have no air force to speak of and can barley provide enough food and gasoline for themselves.
    Just like ye old North Korea.
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  • ShaneShane Posts: 15,229 balls deep
    Iran is not a threat to the US, its war propaganda.

    They have not attacked anyone in over 200 years, they have no air force to speak of and can barley provide enough food and gasoline for themselves.
    Just like ye old North Korea.
    NK is a minor threat... to SK and does not affect US national security at all.

    i do believe we need to keep our base there just as a deterrent for invasion but active military engagements with NK is a really fucking bad idea cuz china could get pulled into and we really REALLY do not want that.
  • StratophonyStratophony Posts: 9,212 just the tip
    *DOESN'T swim to Europe*
  • FIRENATHANIELHACKETTFIRENATHANIELHACKETT Posts: 35,453 spicy boy
    Take a good hard look at our motherfuckin boats
  • OPPOPP Posts: 50,132 spicy boy
    *has no beach*

    *fuck salt*
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  • TravisTravis Posts: 4,971 balls deep
    wait'll we park 40,000 tons of Diplomacy on their beach....
  • SkullAndCrossbonesSkullAndCrossbones Posts: 16,452 destroyer of motherfuckers
    *jerks off on the beach while looking at warships*
    =))
    Iran is not a threat to the US, its war propaganda.

    They have not attacked anyone in over 200 years, they have no air force to speak of and can barley provide enough food and gasoline for themselves.
    Obama will get called weak unless he blows something up over this....
    =))
    "That's another thing I love about metal, it's so fuckin' huge yet certain people don't even know it exists." - Rob Zombie
  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Iran is not a threat to the US, its war propaganda.

    They have not attacked anyone in over 200 years, they have no air force to speak of and can barley provide enough food and gasoline for themselves.
    Just like ye old North Korea.
    NK is a minor threat... to SK and does not affect US national security at all.

    i do believe we need to keep our base there just as a deterrent for invasion but active military engagements with NK is a really fucking bad idea cuz china could get pulled into and we really REALLY do not want that.
    Well, Iran is a potential threat to Israel's security, both physically and politically.
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  • ShaneShane Posts: 15,229 balls deep
    Iran is not a threat to the US, its war propaganda.

    They have not attacked anyone in over 200 years, they have no air force to speak of and can barley provide enough food and gasoline for themselves.
    Just like ye old North Korea.
    NK is a minor threat... to SK and does not affect US national security at all.

    i do believe we need to keep our base there just as a deterrent for invasion but active military engagements with NK is a really fucking bad idea cuz china could get pulled into and we really REALLY do not want that.
    Well, Iran is a potential threat to Israel's security, both physically and politically.
    Iran does nothing more than posture and bluff, Israel would annihilate them in a war. Also no country in their right mind would start a full blown war with Israel atm cuz they are an alleged nuclear state.

  • SATANSATAN Posts: 25,824 spicy boy
    and iran

    iran so far away

    i couldn't get away
  • TravisTravis Posts: 4,971 balls deep
    and iran

    iran so far away

    i couldn't get away
    love it....
  • drinkwine732drinkwine732 Posts: 20,418 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Iran does nothing more than posture and bluff, Israel would annihilate them in a war. Also no country in their right mind would start a full blown war with Israel atm cuz they are an alleged nuclear state.

    Iran is a country led by people who are not in their right mind.
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