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  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    will the real Jacob please stand up, please stand up
  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,663 master of ceremonies
    I saw the Red Wing logo and thought it was the same guy posting over and over again. didn't realize it was 2 different people with the same avatar. Guess I have to catch up around here
    MISSION SUCCESS! :D
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
  • laurjohn2laurjohn2 Posts: 6,951 balls deep
    I saw the Red Wing logo and thought it was the same guy posting over and over again. didn't realize it was 2 different people with the same avatar. Guess I have to catch up around here
    you know you've made it, when you've been cloned

  • Chicken_FuckerChicken_Fucker Posts: 15,691 destroyer of motherfuckers
    lol .......i was cloned once on the ozzboards and it was confusing for awhile
  • Chicken_FuckerChicken_Fucker Posts: 15,691 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Said Red Wing buddy just texted me to complain about Rafalski, Howard and Zetterberg not making the All Star Game. He has now decided to boycott the All Star Game
  • JLRedWing13JLRedWing13 Posts: 48,722 mod
    ^LOL! I should have thought of the "I" instead of putting an extra 3.
    Someone already did that....and I banned him. <_>
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  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,663 master of ceremonies
    He should be happy 1 of his players made it. Richards and Erikksson from the Starz made it :3333333333333
  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,663 master of ceremonies
    ^LOL! I should have thought of the "I" instead of putting an extra 3.
    Someone already did that....and I banned him. <_>
    >_>
    <_<

    :D
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
    don't ban me, i was provoked by MarcTheFailure
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
    The allstar game is BS, i didnt even want to talk about it. The Flyers, best team in the East have one player too. It's bullshit the Wings only have 1 too. The game is a joke, the league is a joke. let all the Pens and Caps players be in it cuz neither of them have a chance to win the cup. Another popularity contest just like the NFL ASG.
  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,663 master of ceremonies
    edited January 2011
    That's the point of ASG. Fans vote who they want in aka who is having a beastly season and stats. Of course it's popularity and of course Crosby and Ovechicken would get in. Those 2 are the leagues most popular players and giving the league one hell of an exposure boost. So in a way you should thank them >_>
  • Chicken_FuckerChicken_Fucker Posts: 15,691 destroyer of motherfuckers
    They probably figure it's not all that important, especially considering that there wasn't even an ASG last season.
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
    allstar games are a boring joke anyway. what was the score last time 11-13 or some shit like that. they should just do the all skills competition
  • MarcTheFallenMarcTheFallen Posts: 26,663 master of ceremonies
    NBA and NFL ASGs are where it's at.

    I like the long bombs and crazy catches and the dunks and alley oops and stuff.
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
    they do all that in the skills competions
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
    ALL-STAR DEBACLE

    Leave it to the NHL to make pointless All-Star games even worse.

    It's probably not worth going off on a big rant here, because it is the All-Star game after all, a meaningless game that no one really cares about but the NHL is going to market like it matters, but the fact of the matter is, whoever the NHL operations department consists of that selected this team sure fell way short of putting together a compelling list of players.

    Certainly there are those that deserve to be part of the festivities. The faces of the league, Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin are going to be there. Not to mention, the league unveiled the uniforms for the All-Star Game Tuesday and while they aren't exactly like the Winter Classic Jerseys worn by the Capitals and Penguins - they sure do bear some striking similarities.

    Other players deserve to be there too, like Martin St. Louis, the Sedin Twins in Vancouver and even though he is the hometown guy, Eric Staal is having a nice season.

    They even went so far as to get it right and recognize some unheralded players having
    fine seasons - like Louis Erikson in Dallas, Ryan Kesler in Vancouver, Anze Kopitar in Los Angeles and Patrick Sharp in Chicago.

    But, to litter the roster with undeserving players, and players who don't have a lot of cache in the name recognition department only makes for a more uninteresting matchup.

    It's bad enough that the ballot box stuffers in Pittsburgh and Chicago got Evgeni Malkin, Marc-Andre Fleury and Jonathan Toews into the All-Star game this season when they aren't having All-Star seasons, but that's forgiveable, because hey, it's fans. They don't know what the heck they're talking about, but they drive the product by constantly spending money to see it, so they should get to see who they want, regardless of how biased their voting might be.

    But, for the NHL people to include players like Patrick Elias (nine goals and a minus-11), Phil Kessel (62nd in the league in scoring and a minus-15), Ales Hemsky (124th in the NHL in scoring), Erik Karlsson (minus-11 and 15th in scoring among deensemen)and Cam Ward(17th in the NHL in goals against) is puzzling.

    I'm not even sure guys like David Backes, Patrick Kane, Brent Burns, Mike Green, Marc Staal, Jonas Hiller or Henrik Lundqvist belonged.

    Not when the following players were snubbed:

    Forwards:

    Nicklas Backstrom (WAS) and Martin Havlat (MIN) - highest scoring players in the NHL (38 each - ranks in top 20) not selected while at least seven forwards with fewer points made it.

    Paul Stastny - only the best player on an overachieving Colorado Avalanche team whose numbers are identical to Jarome Iginla, who made the team.

    Dany Heatley, Ryan Getzlaf, Mike Richards and Teemu Selanne - four players having solid years with a little name recognition that would have spiced up the lineup. Instead, the league felt Backes, Elias, Hemsky, and Kessel were better choices.

    Danny Briere - Only eight players in the NHL have at least 20 goals this season. Seven of them are all stars. Briere is the only one who isn't.

    Defensemen:

    Lubomir Visnovsky - raise your hand if you thought the Ducks were a contender this year. Visnovsky has been excellent with 33 points and a plus-6.

    Jon-Michael Liles and Brian Rafalski - two U.S. defenseman getting no love - but with 30 points each and strong defensive numbers, they have to be better choices than either Burns or Karlsson - not to mention would have at least been recognizable to NBC viewers in the States.

    How can anyone not be impressed with Ryan Whitney on a bad Edmonton team? His stats - 2-25-27, plus-13. Another American left out.

    Oh, and the guy that sort of replaced Whitney in Pittsburgh - Alex Gologoski. He's 7-16-23 plus-20. O.K. We get it. It's Canada's game. Now, pick the most deserving players, please?

    Wait, more U.S. snubs?

    How about Jonathan Quick (2.18 GAA, .920 SvPct.)? He's got to be a better choice than Ward, Carey Price and Jonas Hiller based on his stats, no?

    But, quick isn't the biggest goalie snub.

    How about Pekka Rinne in Nashville? The Finn has super numbers (2.16, .926).
    Or Ondrej Pavelec, who is singlehandedly turning the Atlanta Thrashers into a playoff team? His 2.33, .930 is better than Roberto Luongo - who I can also make a case for ahead of Ward and Hiller.

    In total, of the 42 players playing in front of a national TV audience in the United States, only six are American.

    That's not to say the NHL should have used that as a starting point - because if Americans didn't deserve to go, then they shouldn't be there just because they are American.

    But if they did deserve to go, that should carry some weight.

    So should name recognition.

    Or being one of the best goal-scorers in the game.

    Of course, none of this matters in the NHL, where everything is done bass-ackwards. Hope they're ready for bad ratings in the U.S. (with the exception of Pittsburgh and Chicago).

  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
    it basically says the NHL wanted to add players from every team or teams with alot of bandwagon fans instead of more deserving players like rafalski and briere.
  • HOODSHOODS Posts: 41,866 destroyer of motherfuckers
    fuck the penguins
  • Chicken_FuckerChicken_Fucker Posts: 15,691 destroyer of motherfuckers
    The Penguins and Hawks have the biggest stars in the NHL, it only makes since that they're using their faces to promote the NHL's exhibition game. It's not the "best player game" it's the All Star game, hence u want the biggest stars. You also complain about Kane, Backes, and Kessel making the team, but complain about not enough americans on the team? That being said you have alot of good points and the NHL usually has trouble getting out of it's own way, but how important is it really, when they didn't even have an ASG last year
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