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  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,946 spicy boy
    Who gave us those freedoms? The government. I lol every time people talk about "freedoms" and "the constitution" and "rights". We have no inherint freedoms or rights. All of our rights come from and came from somebody in power. If those rights change with the shift of that power, its only natural. 

    The constitution was written by men. Men are flawed. Therefore the creation of man is flawed. Its not a be-all end-all to life and "freedoms". Its been ammended many times even. 
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  • Rex_Capone420Rex_Capone420 Posts: 69,857 spicy boy
    You are scum. 
  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,946 spicy boy
    You need a tin foil hat.
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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    So I take it mc is not religious anymore then 
  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,946 spicy boy
    So I take it mc is not religious anymore then 
    Im not religious. I consider myself "spiritual" and believe in a higher power, but I dont follow the doctrine and rituals of religion. 

    What I said still applies though. Those rights and freedoms would have been given by a god then. IE the person in power. 
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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    There are no real rules to life obviously but we can try and form a society that tried to enhance our quality of life and usually that includes basic freedoms
  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    And also you now are on your final step to just accepting atheism lol your slow decline from organized religion looks almost identical to mine.. Enjoy your spirituality while it lasts
  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,946 spicy boy
    There are no real rules to life obviously but we can try and form a society that tried to enhance our quality of life and usually that includes basic freedoms
    And those basic freedoms are ultimately decided upon by those in power. 

    If everyone got to pick what they believed to be a basic freedom, there'd be anarchy
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  • Rex_Capone420Rex_Capone420 Posts: 69,857 spicy boy
    Like I'm not even talking about illuminati. The list literally comes from the White House. Every news organization on network TV is owned by one of 6 companies. They are forbidden to talk about anything on this list or otherwise be blacklisted.

    i don't see how you can know that and just brush it off like its no big deal lol
  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,946 spicy boy
    It isnt a big deal to me 
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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    Of course that's true but the whole point of forming a society is to enhance the lives of the people in it.. And society needs rules.. There are no natural freedoms 
  • Rex_Capone420Rex_Capone420 Posts: 69,857 spicy boy
    Because you're 14 and live in a fantasy world. 
  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,946 spicy boy
    Because you're 14 and live in a fantasy world. 
    Because its not a big deal unless you make it a big deal
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  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    edited May 2015
    Who gave us those freedoms? The government. I lol every time people talk about "freedoms" and "the constitution" and "rights". We have no inherint freedoms or rights. All of our rights come from and came from somebody in power. If those rights change with the shift of that power, its only natural. 

    The constitution was written by men. Men are flawed. Therefore the creation of man is flawed. Its not a be-all end-all to life and "freedoms". Its been ammended many times even. 
    I reject your assertion. It is my claim that every person is born with the inherent right to their own life, liberty, and the products of their work (or property). No one has a greater claim to your own life then your claim on that life. No government, no leader, no one in power is an legitimate claim of your life liberty or property. If someone were to take your life from you, that is murder and that is wrong. If someone were to take your liberty away from you then that is slavery and that is wrong. If someone were to take your property away from you then that is theft and that is wrong. You own your own life, and you are free to live that life however you deem fit as long as your actions do not infringe upon anothers equal right to their own life, liberty, or property.

    Sometimes elected officials or leaders will overstep their bounds and make policy changes that might appear to change the quality of your life, liberty, or property. Those changes of policy that possibly minimize your inherent rights should not be accepted by you. To quote one of my favorite presidents :

    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" - Thomas Jeffereson


  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    Just because something is wrong doesn't mean people can't do it tho.. It's rules created by people .. They are not natural and don't exist in the remaining animal kingdom
  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,946 spicy boy
    Just because something is wrong doesn't mean people can't do it tho.. It's rules created by people .. They are not natural and don't exist in the remaining animal kingdom
    Once again, we are above animals. That is why rules exist.
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  • NolaFree810NolaFree810 Posts: 36,796 moneytalker
    True but we have no right to those rules .. Like you said they can be removed at any time by someone in power.. They are rules worth fighting for but you are not born with any rights
  • WakeOfAshesWakeOfAshes Posts: 21,665 destroyer of motherfuckers
    Just because something is wrong doesn't mean people can't do it tho.. It's rules created by people .. They are not natural and don't exist in the remaining animal kingdom
    correct. However as a society, when someone does one of those wrongs, then as a society they should correct the wrongs done. If you are doing wrongs to another, then it would be silly for you to expect that same wrong to not happen back to you.
  • MetalCoresadesMetalCoresades Posts: 57,946 spicy boy
    True but we have no right to those rules .. Like you said they can be removed at any time by someone in power.. They are rules worth fighting for but you are not born with any rights
    exactly
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  • Rex_Capone420Rex_Capone420 Posts: 69,857 spicy boy
    How can we be above animals if we are animals :-?
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